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Old 03-11-2014, 10:01 PM
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Maybe they should vote for derby entrants? Then you would never be guaranteed a spot to coast from...
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:48 PM
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I liked it better when they ran crap races like this as exhibitions with no betting. You see a lot of those scanning the book Champions.
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:29 AM
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Ill be hung up at work tomorrow, so I wont be betting the #1.
Now I hope Honor Code blows him off the racetrack.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:24 AM
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Will the horse on the rail be more than 6:5?
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:17 AM
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Will the horse on the rail be more than 6:5?
I don't see how he could. It is a 2 and a quarter horse race. There is zero chance any of the three that have a sliver of a chance will offer value.
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:24 AM
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What will the will-pay be on a 4-2 exacta?
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:00 PM
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What? You mean Ta Bueno isn't really going to be 8/1 and they're only going to bet the other 3??? Nooooooooo
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:09 PM
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Maybe they should vote for derby entrants? Then you would never be guaranteed a spot to coast from...
no, they need a system so everyone knows all that's required to get in. so, now trainers know if you get one win, you're in. the others will be left scrambling and chasing points, while the 'top' horses train up.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:06 PM
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I think it's fair that Phil said he wasn't supposed to win. That term refers to short priced/logical horses. No firster is really ever " supposed to win " especially one at 9:1. It's not saying it was a shock. It's racetrack jargon.

Steve just disagreed so he would have a chance to name drop and play the insider game. He still hasn't figured out that we know he's an insider:-)
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:16 PM
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I think it's fair that Phil said he wasn't supposed to win. That term refers to short priced/logical horses. No firster is really ever " supposed to win " especially one at 9:1. It's not saying it was a shock. It's racetrack jargon.

Steve just disagreed so he would have a chance to name drop and play the insider game. He still hasn't figured out that we know he's an insider:-)
Nothing against Manny Azpurua but I don't think name droppin' him even gets you on the Calder backside...!

I would like to know why they have this horse listed with a solitary work at Hollywood Park in June, before starting a standard workout pattern in January at GP. That has to be an error, right?

I really feel like this horse has Preakness written all over him.
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Nothing against Manny Azpurua but I don't think name droppin' him even gets you on the Calder backside...!

I would like to know why they have this horse listed with a solitary work at Hollywood Park in June, before starting a standard workout pattern in January at GP. That has to be an error, right?

I really feel like this horse has Preakness written all over him.
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Old 03-13-2014, 03:55 PM
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I don't have drf+ and refuse to pay for it since I don't use drf pps anyway. What is the synapsis?
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:40 PM
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I don't have drf+ and refuse to pay for it since I don't use drf pps anyway. What is the synapsis?
He had ten works at HP last year, but they decided to give him time.

Oh yeah, they chose GP because it's the meeting of champions.

Also, they are fielding offers for him.

Best ones they mentioned were half for 2 mil, and 75% for 5 mil.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:23 AM
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I would like to know why they have this horse listed with a solitary work at Hollywood Park in June, before starting a standard workout pattern in January at GP. That has to be an error, right?
He was with Jeff Bonde, and Bonde worked him a handful of times before being transferred to Azparua.
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I think it's fair that Phil said he wasn't supposed to win. That term refers to short priced/logical horses. No firster is really ever " supposed to win " especially one at 9:1. It's not saying it was a shock. It's racetrack jargon.

Steve just disagreed so he would have a chance to name drop and play the insider game. He still hasn't figured out that we know he's an insider:-)
LOL. The horse was well discussed before the debut. Certainly ATR listeners heard Welsch talk about him with me. The inhibiting factor was the rail draw because he had been reportedly struggling with the gate.

If I was name dropping, I would have said 'Ron and Manny'..
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I just wanted to mention that I can now cross one thing off my own, personal things-I-never-thought-I'd-see list.

Either that or I'm hallucinating.
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