Best Horse of 2006

[SniperSB23]

Invasor although I'll give small consideration to changing my vote if Discreet Cat is amazing on Saturday.

[Danzig]

barbaro




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[sumitas]

I'm going to stick with the undefeated Barbaro. His Florida and Kentucky Derby races are awfully tough to beat.

[saucon17]

INVASOR

Because he was 4 for 4 against top notch quality horses in the United States

Invasor was the best.
Barbaro probably would have been had things not gone wrong.
He really wasn't appreciated for how good he was because after his injury bernadinimania started.
Look back at what he did.
Wins at Delaware, Laurel, and Calder on grass.
Wins at Gulf in the slop and on a dry track.
Most dominant Derby win I ever saw.
Only defeat occurred when he went down to injury.
We really got screwed missing out on what we could have witnessed with him.
That one's always gonna hurt.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I'm going to stick with the undefeated Barbaro. His Florida and Kentucky Derby races are awfully tough to beat.

LOL. The Florida Derby. LOL.

[Hwjb]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I'm going to stick with the undefeated Barbaro. His Florida and Kentucky Derby races are awfully tough to beat.

Hate to be pernickety, but Barbaro wasn't undefeated.


Worldwide, given their conditions, it's very difficult to split Bernardini, George Washington and Rail Link.

In terms of pure form all three are a mite above the likes of Deep Impact, Barbaro, Invasor and Discreet Cat, for all that the second named may well have proved capable of better and the last 2-named may well still do so.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

Hate to be pernickety, but Barbaro wasn't undefeated.


Worldwide, given their conditions, it's very difficult to split Bernardini, George Washington and Rail Link.

In terms of pure form all three are a mite above the likes of Deep Impact, Barbaro, Invasor and Discreet Cat, for all that the second named may well have proved capable of better and the last 2-named may well still do so.

How is George Washington a might better than Invasor? Didn't they race against each other once with a decisive outcome in favor of Invasor?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

How is George Washington a might better than Invasor? Didn't they race against each other once with a decisive outcome in favor of Invasor?

Oh of course the same goes for Bernardini who was in the same race.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Oh of course the same goes for Bernardini who was in the same race.

I personally have never seen a greater state of "denial" in my life than I have about the BCC.
Its not even like anyone had a bad trip to blame it on, well except Invasor who lost a lotta ground on the turns and ran against the bias off a layoff that was NOT BY DESIGN that also hindered him.
You'd listen to folks now and you just can't believe that they haven't accepted the outcome.

[Hwjb]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

How is George Washington a might better than Invasor? Didn't they race against each other once with a decisive outcome in favor of Invasor?

Simple really, because George Washington ran to a better level of form when winning the QEII at Ascot, and Bernardini did so when winning the Travers, than they did in defeat in the BCC. You can't make season-long ratings on the back of run, especially when one of the horses you seek to denigrate is having his first run on a new surface upped to a trip he doesn't stay!!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

Simple really, because George Washington ran to a better level of form when winning the QEII at Ascot, and Bernardini did so when winning the Travers, than they did in defeat in the BCC. You can't make season-long ratings on the back of run, especially when one of the horses you seek to denigrate is having his first run on a new surface upped to a trip he doesn't stay!!

May I ask you what you mean when you use the term, "run to a better level of form"? How do you know that GW's level of form in the QEII at Ascot on the turf, exceeded Invasors level of form in the Classic on the dirt?

Nothing in my prior statements denigrated George Washington. Why did they send him to the Classic, did they not think he could stay?

Also you have contradicted yourself. You are telling me that you can't make season long ratings based on one race, the BCC, yet you are making season long ratings for GW and Bernardini based on one race, (The QEII and the Travers).