What did we learn...Pre BC?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

While people rightfully use breaking poorly as an excuse, they also tend to underestimate the fact that horses that break poorly are often on the way down form wise. To top it off, they are often overbet because of the poor break.

Cross Traffic could not have been colder on the board on Saturday. He ran the way he was bet.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Cross Traffic could not have been colder on the board on Saturday. He ran the way he was bet.

Orb was red-hot on the board.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Orb was red-hot on the board.

never been too big into the "board", just as much as it may have lead me somewhere more times than not its been fools gold.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

never been too big into the "board", just as much as it may have lead me somewhere more times than not its been fools gold.

Unless it is a long layoff, first time starter, or sharp class dropper...I never get swayed even slightly by that stuff.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

never been too big into the "board", just as much as it may have lead me somewhere more times than not its been fools gold.

I let it lead me to horses that are getting ignored...

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I let it lead me to horses that are getting ignored...

Especially in the subject race!

[Travis Stone]

Cross Traffic lost all chance at the start. To use his performance as a true indication off how he is might be a bit aggressive. I won't be surprised if he bounces back or is done for a 125 return Beyer at Gulfstream or is retired.

I don't think you can honestly say though that the early wagering in the race wasn't curious. Cross Traffic figured to be lone speed on a speedy good rail and had big figures to boot with Pletcher's hot hand. To open up at something like 6-1 or 7-1 is pretty high I think. I don't know who "they" is and what they know that we don't, but his price was really high early in the betting.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Orb was red-hot on the board.

At one point (with over $200K in the win pool), the "other Pletcher" was 8-5 while Cross Traffic was 7-1. If the Cross Traffic that ran in the Met Mile and Whitney had showed up on Saturday, he was supposed to be closer to 8-5 than 8-1. Someone knew.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

At one point (with over $200K in the win pool), the "other Pletcher" was 8-5 while Cross Traffic was 7-1. If the Cross Traffic that ran in the Met Mile and Whitney had showed up on Saturday, he was supposed to be closer to 8-5 than 8-1. Someone knew.

Don't buy it. Palace Malice -- the 'other' Pletcher -- had won at 12f over the course and was exiting a troubled 10f trip. Cross Traffic was an uncertainty that many felt was fortunate to hold off Successful Dan at 9f.

Here's the ML and PT prices of the 4 faves.
Cross Traffic (2.50 ML; 3.40 PT)
Flat Out (3.00 ML; 2.50 PT)
Palace Malice (4.00 ML; 2.75 PT)
Orb (4.50 ML; 3.50)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Don't buy it. Palace Malice -- the 'other' Pletcher -- had won at 12f over the course and was exiting a troubled 10f trip. Cross Traffic was an uncertainty that many felt was fortunate to hold off Successful Dan at 9f.

Here's the ML and PT prices of the 4 faves.
Cross Traffic (2.50 ML; 3.40 PT)
Flat Out (3.00 ML; 2.50 PT)
Palace Malice (4.00 ML; 2.75 PT)
Orb (4.50 ML; 3.50)

orb is shug at home not to mention the winner of americas only famous race
flat out was mott at home and more importantly flat out at home
palice malice was the best horse in travers and classic winner
cross traffic was a monster 4 year ols with the hottest bsf he was 5 to 1 with 7 minutes to go.. ice city... the word was out period

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

orb is shug at home not to mention the winner of americas only famous race
flat out was mott at home and more importantly flat out at home
palice malice was the best horse in travers and classic winner
cross traffic was a monster 4 year ols with the hottest bsf he was 5 to 1 with 7 minutes to go.. ice city... the word was out period

OK Freddy. You're right. That makes it clear. The $1 separating the 4 top choices spells it out definitively. Word was out period.

[Kasept]

Here's a question for those that must really be in the know... With all the smart money 'that knew', how did the winner go off at 21-1?

"They knew" yet "they" let the winner go at an obvious overlay number. I guess only 'they' that really know among the they that knew got in on the winner.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Cross Traffic could not have been colder on the board on Saturday. He ran the way he was bet.

Board action said Orb was 'supposed' to run.