Sudden Deaths in Southern Cal

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by jocko699

The numbers seem very high for one trainer. I am surprised and disturbed by it.

What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.

What does that have to do with Baffert?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

What does that have to do with Baffert?

Nothing at all. That doesn’t make it irrelevant though. Look at Todd just this last week. A champion and a Grade 1 winner this year. Both out extended periods of time with injuries. Would anyone be surprised if we don’t see either horse ever again?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Nothing at all. That doesn’t make it irrelevant though. Look at Todd just this last week. A champion and a Grade 1 winner this year. Both out extended periods of time with injuries. Would anyone be surprised if we don’t see either horse ever again?

Who said it was irrelevant? People have been talking about your point for a long time. Where have you been?

It has nothing to do with the topic. The topic is your man crush.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Nothing at all. That doesn’t make it irrelevant though. Look at Todd just this last week. A champion and a Grade 1 winner this year. Both out extended periods of time with injuries. Would anyone be surprised if we don’t see either horse ever again?

If we didn't it would be more of a reflection of the value of the horses as breeding stock than because they are trained by Pletcher.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

If we didn't it would be more of a reflection of the value of the horses as breeding stock than because they are trained by Pletcher.

i wonder if he gets shares in all these horses-if so, i wonder if he's better off trying to bring them back from an injury or in being involved with them as a stud. i don't know if pletcher's is in the news more for a horse doing well, or a horse getting hurt/sick.

[Danzig]

paulick report has a new article, which says the CHRB says there has been no 'spike' in deaths:

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...equine-deaths/

one, i still have questions.
two, i doubt joe drape runs an article to update readers about the statistics.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i doubt joe drape runs an article to update readers about the statistics.

Oh I'm sure that's accurate, as I doubt he cares what the real statistics are. If he gets a number that sounds bad, it's probably true as far as he's concerned. The idea of a legitimate investigation into horse racing is just not gonna cross anybody's desk at the NY Times. When they run with the inevitable things that Joe Drape puts out, it causes people to circle the wagons when really we ought to both be on the same side, rooting out the problems. If they made less of a mess of things from a "journalistic" standpoint, making almost everyone look like villains, we might actually be able to get somewhere with transparency in the media.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.

a wholly separate subject. has nothing to do with what is a very odd situation with baffert right now.
and your reaction is one of the things wrong with the sport. people who like a trainer don't want things to be true-but it doesn't make it untrue.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a wholly separate subject. has nothing to do with what is a very odd situation with baffert right now.
and your reaction is one of the things wrong with the sport. people who like a trainer don't want things to be true-but it doesn't make it untrue.

Your right. I like Baffert, I defend him. Some of the things I have read recently do bother me, regarding Bob.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Your right. I like Baffert, I defend him. Some of the things I have read recently do bother me, regarding Bob.

why would you defend someone you don't even know? you don't know what he's doing-why would you go out on that limb?

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What about the number of Pletcher horses? Not just deaths, but injuries also.

Only talking about Baffert here, Pletcher is another story.