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Old 11-09-2012, 11:11 AM
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What must Obama do this term in order for you to say. "Hey I was wrong, the guy did a good job, I guess he needed more than 4 years to clean up this mess". Are you capable of even getting to that point, I think Rupert may be but Joey and Dell the way you come across to me and it may be just me, your seething hatred comes across as something much deeper.
In four years unemployment under 7% and National Debt under 19 trillion would be nice.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:13 AM
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In four years unemployment under 7% and National Debt under 19 trillion would be nice.
5% Unemployment and debt under 15 trillion would be better.

In short - he needs to do the opposite of what he has been doing. No more class warfare, lower the taxes for everybody (rich included) and cut the spending so much that a little of the revenue can be used to actually chip away at this debt.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:22 AM
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5% Unemployment and debt under 15 trillion would be better.

In short - he needs to do the opposite of what he has been doing. No more class warfare, lower the taxes for everybody (rich included) and cut the spending so much that a little of the revenue can be used to actually chip away at this debt.
Taxes are already at a historical low. Remember they were TEMPORARILY put there by GWB since we were flush with cash. Maybe that was becuase there were NO WARS in the 90's and the country was at full employment.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:24 PM
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Taxes are already at a historical low. Remember they were TEMPORARILY put there by GWB since we were flush with cash. Maybe that was becuase there were NO WARS in the 90's and the country was at full employment.
funny thing about temporary tax changes. they are always anything but.

people need a dose of reality. we had a president who pushed thru 'temporary' tax cuts so that we would see job growth (which hasn't happened) while spending trillions on two wars with no increase in taxes to pay for it.

so, less jobs than when the cuts were enacted, which means less revenue. also means more needing assistance.
then there's the fiction that wars mean growth. so, huge budget hits, with no corresponding increases in funding to pay for them.

a double-whammy. well, a triple actually, counting two separate wars.

and then people yelp that we 'can't raise taxes'. bullsh!t.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:21 PM
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what are you doing in 2016?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:17 AM
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In four years unemployment under 7% and National Debt under 19 trillion would be nice.
Del I think this is fair and your stock just shot up in my book for 1 answering and 2 not giving some absurd numbers like most tea party guy would. We All need him to hit these numbers.
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