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Old 10-24-2012, 07:37 AM
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the same people saying bush should be 'on trial for war crimes' say nothing about obama and his use of 'signature' strikes. bush was bad because he ordered captured militants to gitmo and other bases.
but obama-he just kills them and others with drone strikes, so it's all okey-dokey.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:19 AM
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the same people saying bush should be 'on trial for war crimes' say nothing about obama and his use of 'signature' strikes.
Nonsense. You could read the lefty world more. There are plenty of lefties that are refusing to vote for Obama, and far more lefties that would put Obama up on charges at the Hague immediately than neocon right wingers who forgive because they secretly get off on the aggression, while bemoaning the lack of defense contracts compared to Iraq.

The right has forgiven Bush, even if he can't travel to Europe without be arrested as a war criminal.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:22 AM
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the same people saying bush should be 'on trial for war crimes' say nothing about obama and his use of 'signature' strikes. bush was bad because he ordered captured militants to gitmo and other bases.
but obama-he just kills them and others with drone strikes, so it's all okey-dokey.
The daughter of the assistant Police Chief of St. Petersburg was killed last week in Afghanistan along with three other by a suicide bomber dressed as an Afghani Intelligence Officer.

Here's a link to the story in the local paper - though it doesn't go into much detail surrounding the circumstances:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/militar...nistan/1256424

What is very interesting to note, is that the suicide bomber previously had no ties whatsoever to Al Queda or the Taliban - he was a simple tribesman caring for his family.
That was until a drone wiped out some of his family - or specifically, an uncle who had held a fairly high stature within the tribe, and by tribal law, his unprovoked attack and subsequent death was required to be avenged.

So there you have it. It isn't bad enough to unilaterally occupy a sovereign nation and go to war against an undefined enemy, with no exit strategy or even so much as an end game, but now we are giving the non-Al Queda afghani's an excuse to be recruited to kill our kids. But BigDumb loves it -
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:16 AM
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yeah, that was mentioned in an article i read about the drone strikes. that people who weren't involved are becoming so because their relatives are killed and were in no way involved as terrorists.
a bad war is a bad war, regardless of who, or how it's being waged. a 'war' on terror has as much of a chance of ultimate success as a war on drugs.

the terror 'war' can't be waged conventionally, because it's not a country. that explains why we're still in afganistan after all these years, with no winning end in sight. terrorists are individuals in various countries. they're criminals and must be handled the same as any other criminal. they should have never been elevated to combatant status. they aren't combatants. they're members of gangs essentially.
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