SAT 11/3 (SA): Breeders' Cup (Fields Post-Draw; Odds)

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Kasept

If he doesn't run well, it doesn't diminish what he was beforehand and if he pulls a Drosselmeyer/Giant's Causeway effort out of his azz you've hit a home run as he starts his stallion career.

Giant's Causeway was a European Horse of the Year with a sensational American pedigree (Storm Cat-Mariah's Storm) and he ran a monster race in the BC Classic. In fact, he ran a monster race pretty much everytime he started in his entire career.

Drosselmeyer was never a turf horse.

Volponi was a horse campaigned a lot on turf.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Giant's Causeway was a European Horse of the Year with a sensational American pedigree (Storm Cat-Mariah's Storm) and he ran a monster race in the BC Classic. In fact, he ran a monster race pretty much everytime he started in his entire career.

Drosselmeyer was never a turf horse. Volponi was a horse campaigned a lot on turf.

This topic came up the other day and Haskin talked extensively about Volponi. Johnson tinkered a lot with him with blinkers and would run him in spates on turf. Steve noted that every time Johnson would take blinkers off, Volponi would respond with a huge effort. He came back as a 5yo so he certainly didn't have had a stud deal in place before the Classic.

Drosselmeyer wasn't a grass horse but started his career on turf and ran in the Sword Dancer that summer. Weren't Mott & WinStar considering the Marathon for him before going in the Classic? He had that stallion deal in place to come to New York before the big win. When it comes to Brilliant Speed, Jerry Brown has said unendingly that he should have been run more on the dirt.

The Euro star on dirt in the Classic always interesting. Sahkee. Giant's Causeway. Swain. Chester House. Raven's Pass.