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Old 11-10-2006, 10:28 AM
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He is just standing up for beyer and haskin who have been slapped around in the last day or two by their employers. As that guy Nichols said "The Maktoum family is going to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time to come." Live with it.

Who cares if Bernardini was retired. I sat out at Belmont Park and there were like 7000 people there for his JCGC.
So you're a rasta?
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:44 AM
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I have to agree with the overall point.....I know it was the 'rational' thing to do, but if they weren't so irrational in their spending all of the time then maybe I would accept this retirement....Frankly, it is a bit hypocritical when you look at their operation for them to retire this horse sound with only a handful of starts and 9 months of racing under his belt....

I was told from somebody from Darley that Discreet Cat was a BIG factor in retiring Bernardini because they feel that DC will win all of the big races in Dubai and the US next year and didn't want the two racing against each other....
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:47 AM
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I have to agree with the overall point.....I know it was the 'rational' thing to do, but if they weren't so irrational in their spending all of the time then maybe I would accept this retirement....Frankly, it is a bit hypocritical when you look at their operation for them to retire this horse sound with only a handful of starts and 9 months of racing under his belt....

I was told from somebody from Darley that Discreet Cat was a BIG factor in retiring Bernardini because they feel that DC will win all of the big races in Dubai and the US next year and didn't want the two racing against each other....
IF he stays healthy.
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:53 AM
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So you're a rasta?
Blood clot, mon- i was there too yah, rass
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Old 11-10-2006, 11:38 AM
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how do billionaires get greedy?
seems like they're playing with monopoly money
they choose not to run!
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:42 PM
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how do billionaires get greedy?
seems like they're playing with monopoly money
they choose not to run!
They are greedy for stallion power. Bernardini looks like a much better stallion prospect than Discreet Cat or Invasor. It is not very "sporting" in the eyes of this fan.
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Old 11-10-2006, 04:22 PM
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They are greedy for stallion power. Bernardini looks like a much better stallion prospect than Discreet Cat or Invasor. It is not very "sporting" in the eyes of this fan.
this is the main point.

remember a year or so ago when Godolphin stopped buying yearlings by Coolmore/Ashford sires in some sort of protest against Tabor and Magnier not supporting their stallions at the sales?
it did not last long, but it brought out the point that Coolmore has totally kicked Godolphin/Darley's as* in the stallion/breeding industry?

Darley has E Dubai.
Coolmore has Giants Causeway.
see the difference?

they needed an AP Indy to do what Bernarndini did to help them catch up in this race.



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Old 11-10-2006, 04:47 PM
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this is the main point.

remember a year or so ago when Godolphin stopped buying yearlings by Coolmore/Ashford sires in some sort of protest against Tabor and Magnier not supporting their stallions at the sales?
it did not last long, but it brought out the point that Coolmore has totally kicked Godolphin/Darley's as* in the stallion/breeding industry?

Darley has E Dubai.
Coolmore has Giants Causeway.
see the difference?

they needed an AP Indy to do what Bernarndini did to help them catch up in this race.



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Darley/Coolmore rivalry has many twists that goes far beyond the track.
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Old 11-11-2006, 02:39 AM
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Most of them retire horses early. Some good points about Henny Hughes. I'd take Kelly Kip over him in a second, providing the pedigrees and physicals fit.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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i don't know that GREED is the correct word here. the sheik felt that dubai millenium would be his big time stallion. of course poor luck and illness cost him his favorite horse. now he has another big horse in bernardini. it's strange, as others have said and i agree--people want that one special horse, one who sets the world on fire. but as soon as they get one, they get nervous and run scared. sheik mo thinks this guy is his big chance to have a signature stallion at his new farm. i mean, this guy tore down jonabell and re-built it from top to bottom, one end to the other. now he needs his own version of storm cat, ap indy, or dare i say...giants causeway to be his big star.

but doubting bernardini can live up to expectations is the right way to think about it. it's very difficult to make a stallion, especially a top notch, six figure commanding stallion who draws mares from all over the world. bernardini will start out as one, but where will he be in a few years? who knows?? he could end up a bust, plenty of others with fantastic pedigrees have done so. odds are more in favor of him failing to live up to expectations than of meeting them--and i don't see him exceeding those expectations! because plenty will be expected of him....
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