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Old 08-21-2012, 01:09 AM
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Your fascination at stuff from four years ago, trying to use Rev. Wright to take down Obama, is simply laughable and sad. Because the only reason behind trying to do so is bald racisim. So you keep going with that.
Riot I'm having such a hard time believing that you do not see why this is such a big issue.

Obama was first elected to the Senate when... 1997?

Any middle school aged kid knows if you're going to run for office your life is an open book.

He went to the Trinity Church for 20 years. Didn't he write that he wept the first time he heard Wright in church?

It's a big deal because it says something about his judgement, perception...

It still matters because we have a right to put him or any of our elected officials under a microscope.

It still matters because of the invidious rants, the venomous waste that this piece of **** ejaculated all over his congregation.

It matters because it reflects on him and if he didn't realize what the guy was saying who else will this happen with... which heads of state? How sacry a thought is that?

Our President called tea party members teabaggers and the Vice President used the term terrorists.

That is shocking me that either / both woud say such things about Americans.

The whole Rev. Wright thing is just one more thing that is both telling and alarming.

God damn America? I'm very offended by that and extremely confused by your posts to Pointman whereby you paint him as racist when so clearly he is not.

I have not fought with you. I don't believe I have ever disprespected you but some of the things you're suggesting... I feel like I can't help but to point out my take on it all.

I've always hated movies where the wrong guy is accused. Even as a kid they just bothered me.

So I'm reading this stuff every day and it's the same kind of sick feeling because I see him explaining himself, his ideas, speaking his heart and eloquently a lot of the time and his words get twisted up and knotted repeatedly and I think if it were me I'd get just as pissed.

It's a terrible accusation. He's not racist.

As far as the president goes I think his diservice to the country is epic.

Someone mentioned pro gay or anti abortion or whatever and to me the thing is there are two main concerns to focus on when deciding who to vote for for that highest office... the economy and national security.

Obama fails miserably in respect to both these things.

He gets a pass though while Bush is made to be some kind of war monger nutcase (?!).

The thing about Bush is after 9/11 if he hadn't acted on the intelligence he was given? He would have / should have been impeached.

He dealt with situations the likes of which no President has ever had to deal with before.

I can understand if there's no love for him but I do not understand the double standard that Pointman so rightly highlighted in terms of posters here and just in a general sense.

History will judge Obama harshly and I think he's, at the very least, a finalist for the worst President ever award.

Oh and I am not racist for the record but I have kept quiet down here for the past few years because you know if you knock him that is what happens... that's what some assume.

Terrible to have been afraid to exercise my first amendment rights but alas... that's the way it is.

Don't even get me started on that condescending, self-righteous, cheap clothes wearing trip taking gestapo-like phony baloney wife of his with her little garden and her food group plate (we were too stupid for the pyramid lol)...
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:43 AM
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:56 AM
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I agree Geeker, great post My Miss Storm Cat!!!
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:19 AM
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I agree. Very well said.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:31 AM
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Well, I guess that settles it.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:55 AM
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MMSC, post of the year is right! Thank you for having sanity and the courage to speak what you feel and understand where I am coming from. Very well said!
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:42 AM
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Thanks, guys.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:50 AM
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I feel like I'm reading the PA off topic room. Kind of sad actually.

I also cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would spend so much time arguing about politics with people that have the opposite opinions as you do. As if anyone's opinion is actually going to change.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:51 PM
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Riot I'm having such a hard time believing that you do not see why this is such a big issue.
Because

1) I"m not a fear-driven conspiracy theorist that doesn't question (no, I am not saying you are)

2) Most importantly: Because I've read Obama's books, and the other books out there written by others about the campaign, Obama, etc., detailing how he's acted, what he's said, witnesses to his life and career, etc

Yeah, guys - you can read books objectively and critically, for the information.

The man's life is an open book, and there's nothing there to feed a massive fear-inspired conspiracy theory about the dangerous manchurian candidate.

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He went to the Trinity Church for 20 years.
He slacked off the past 7, due to jobs/family (verified by other people in the Church), and Wright didn't go off the deep end on his sermons until he became elderly and right before his retirement (verified by others in the church).

The President has lived under a microscope of examination of his words and deeds for years - years!

The man has four years of actual performance behind him. Ignoring that in favor of fear is ridiculous.

Fear that the President is suddenly going to turn into an "attack the white man with hate" person? Give me an effing break and get me back to reality, please! Talk about racist Southern Strategy Dog Whistles! Good lord!

And calling the President a failure economically is a matter of opinion, but I'll go with the overwhelming number of economists that have objectively measured and shown how his economic policies kept us out of a depression, and are working in spite of overwhelming obstruction by the Republicans in Congress, thanks.

History will judge Obama very well, with historic, positive changes to this country. He's already being credited thusely at the end of his first term.

Haters are gonna hate on this President. But the facts are what they are.

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Don't even get me started on that condescending, self-righteous, cheap clothes wearing trip taking gestapo-like phony baloney wife of his with her little garden and her food group plate (we were too stupid for the pyramid lol)...
Wow. That's so offensive it's unbelievable. Certainly you are entitled to your opinion. This First Lady does simply what every other First Lady has done, had issues: and this one's is veterans welfare and health of our children.

I'm appalled you attack her for helping children. And her work in Veterans Affairs has been lauded by veterans as the most they've received in years.

I'm appalled at the outright hate thrown at this President and his family. I've never, ever seen anything like it, and no, Bush W. did not get this.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:18 PM
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Riot I'm having such a hard time believing that you do not see why this is such a big issue.

Obama was first elected to the Senate when... 1997?

Any middle school aged kid knows if you're going to run for office your life is an open book.

He went to the Trinity Church for 20 years. Didn't he write that he wept the first time he heard Wright in church?

It's a big deal because it says something about his judgement, perception...

It still matters because we have a right to put him or any of our elected officials under a microscope.

It still matters because of the invidious rants, the venomous waste that this piece of **** ejaculated all over his congregation.

It matters because it reflects on him and if he didn't realize what the guy was saying who else will this happen with... which heads of state? How sacry a thought is that?

Our President called tea party members teabaggers and the Vice President used the term terrorists.

That is shocking me that either / both woud say such things about Americans.

The whole Rev. Wright thing is just one more thing that is both telling and alarming.

God damn America? I'm very offended by that and extremely confused by your posts to Pointman whereby you paint him as racist when so clearly he is not.

I have not fought with you. I don't believe I have ever disprespected you but some of the things you're suggesting... I feel like I can't help but to point out my take on it all.

I've always hated movies where the wrong guy is accused. Even as a kid they just bothered me.

So I'm reading this stuff every day and it's the same kind of sick feeling because I see him explaining himself, his ideas, speaking his heart and eloquently a lot of the time and his words get twisted up and knotted repeatedly and I think if it were me I'd get just as pissed.

It's a terrible accusation. He's not racist.

As far as the president goes I think his diservice to the country is epic.

Someone mentioned pro gay or anti abortion or whatever and to me the thing is there are two main concerns to focus on when deciding who to vote for for that highest office... the economy and national security.

Obama fails miserably in respect to both these things.

He gets a pass though while Bush is made to be some kind of war monger nutcase (?!).

The thing about Bush is after 9/11 if he hadn't acted on the intelligence he was given? He would have / should have been impeached.

He dealt with situations the likes of which no President has ever had to deal with before.

I can understand if there's no love for him but I do not understand the double standard that Pointman so rightly highlighted in terms of posters here and just in a general sense.

History will judge Obama harshly and I think he's, at the very least, a finalist for the worst President ever award.

Oh and I am not racist for the record but I have kept quiet down here for the past few years because you know if you knock him that is what happens... that's what some assume.

Terrible to have been afraid to exercise my first amendment rights but alas... that's the way it is.

Don't even get me started on that condescending, self-righteous, cheap clothes wearing trip taking gestapo-like phony baloney wife of his with her little garden and her food group plate (we were too stupid for the pyramid lol)...
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:39 PM
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Riot you never show anything to back up your wild fantasies, since I have already caught you in lies, you writing that church members said that Wright didn't become hateful and racist until after he became senile is not going to cut it Show me one quote by a church member besides those filthy lying Obamas or even show me one story from a credible source that says Wight is senile.

Obama didn't even write his own books and has even admitted he made stuff up.

You can't lie your way out of this one.
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