Wisconsin Recall

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

So you are saying that the democrats have lost touch with their voting base and should not have called for the recall?

No. That is not remotely close to what I said. BTW, the Democrats have retaken control of the state Senate through recall elections. I'm glad they held them. Recall elections are legal (that's how Scott Walker first got elected, in fact).

I am saying that most citizens don't believe in recall elections unless there is proven malfeasance. That means that, even though multiple felony charges and plea bargains have been filed against Scott Walker's aids and office workers from his immediate previous job, the public is holding to "innocent until proven guilty" as far as their governor is concerned.

The same thing happened to Blago in Illinois, who was re-elected twice. Maybe they can room together?

BTW- interesting that you trust an exit poll on Obama/Romney when the same exit poll showed 50-50 which was obviously wrong.

Exit polls are always questionable, and get adjusted as the real numbers come in, and are compared to the real numbers. So you "trust" exit polls to the extent that the polling data is verifiable.

Walker used a one-time new and entirely different methodology for figuring "job loss" than every other state in the country, including Wisconsin and Walker himself, has always used, just to make an ad for his re-election campaign.

Wisconsin is still last in the nation in job growth. Wisconsin has still followed the disastrous Koch Brothers - ALEC agenda, until it was stopped by the Democrats retaking the Senate, in spite of multiple corporations bailing out on ALEC.

The state budget is still a disaster, covered up by "funny math" spreading unsolved deficits out over future years.

Walker has simply papered over his disastrous term to hide his failure. The failure and poor governance of Wisconsin still exists. No train, no jobs, no balanced budget, a massive unsolved deficit. Plus Walker is still under FBI investigation, and has proven repeatedly to be a liar (it just came out he lied about inviting the FBI to start the investigation - he was really obstructing it)

This is no win for Wisconsin. But it's a partial good win, because Walker has been stopped from additional forcing through of the ALEC agenda his corporate owners have set for him. 64% of Walker's re-election money came from out-of-state billionaires. Walker is a wholly-owned corporate tool. That hasn't changed.

Oh, yeah: Did anybody notice that Friday, David Schuster broke a new story about Walker? That the FBI is investigating him outside of and in addition to the John Doe investigation?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. That is not remotely close to what I said. BTW, the Democrats have retaken control of the state Senate through recall elections. I'm glad they held them. Recall elections are legal (that's how Scott Walker first got elected, in fact).

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Way to rent a seat for 6 months while the legislature doesn't meet again until Jan 2013. That win if it holds up means absolutely nothing, but again why worry about the facts.

BTW- did you see Barrett get slapped after he gave his concession speech?

Death threats, etc. Once again the liberals are showing there true colors. Check out what is on twitter.

One final thing "THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!!!"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by wiphan

One final thing "THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!!!"

OOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Riot]

=wiphan Way to rent a seat for 6 months while the legislature doesn't meet again until Jan 2013. That win if it holds up means absolutely nothing, but again why worry about the facts.

Yes, good point! The facts are that Walker was planning on calling a "special session" of the Senate this summer and pass the mining bill (a gift to his crony donor) and now, with the GOP having lost the Senate, he can't do that.

The facts are that Walker was also planning to call a "special session" of the Senate this summer, and make Wisconsin a "right to work for less" state - and he can't do that, either.

One final thing "THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!!!"

Yes, indeed. No more Scott Walker shoving ALEC agenda items through in the middle of the night

Walker is done. His power is gone, stripped by democracy: the successful Senate recalls. All Walker has left is waiting for the FBI indictments to come down on his head.