Wisconsin Recall

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what a waste of time, energy and money. all this hubbub, and the status quo remains the same.

Actually I think the recall energized the republicans and I think it back fired on Democrats. Walker won by a bigger margin than 2010. Riot and other democrats now hope for felony charges against our govenor instead of trying to create jobs, lower taxes and improve the quality of the state. It is a fundamental difference in principals. They are hoping for failure when the GOP is in charge, while most republicans never hope for failure regardless of who is in charge and do not cheer for bad news. When unemployment numbers were bad the dems were cheering. When unemployment numbers and job creation was proved to be wrong and the numbers actually showed growth the dems didn't believe it and called Walker a liar and a crook. I don't think I could ever cheer for someone to lose their job. The people of the state haven spoken stop your crying and let's get back to business.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Actually I think the recall energized the republicans and I think it back fired on Democrats. Walker won by a bigger margin than 2010. Riot and other democrats now hope for felony charges against our govenor instead of trying to create jobs, lower taxes and improve the quality of the state. It is a fundamental difference in principals. They are hoping for failure when the GOP is in charge, while most republicans never hope for failure regardless of who is in charge and do not cheer for bad news. When unemployment numbers were bad the dems were cheering. When unemployment numbers and job creation was proved to be wrong and the numbers actually showed growth the dems didn't believe it and called Walker a liar and a crook. I don't think I could ever cheer for someone to lose their job. The people of the state haven spoken stop your crying and let's get back to business.

By "business" of course, you mean Big Business. Because the "fundamental difference in principle" to which you refer is that Republicans believe Companies have more value than Individuals.

Republicans- they love America, but hate Americans.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

By "business" of course, you mean Big Business. Because the "fundamental difference in principle" to which you refer is that Republicans believe Companies have more value than Individuals.

Republicans- they love America, but hate Americans.

Companies are made up of large groups of people with a collective goal. Companies that aren't pro-America should be punished, guys like Immelt should not be rewarded with high level positions while decimating the American portion of their workforce.

Agreed?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Companies are made up of large groups of people with a collective goal. Companies that aren't pro-America should be punished, guys like Immelt should not be rewarded with high level positions while decimating the American portion of their workforce.

Agreed?

Let her and the false left-right paradigm be!! It's awesome in that web. The spider is a vegetarian.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Companies are made up of large groups of people with a collective goal. Companies that aren't pro-America should be punished, guys like Immelt should not be rewarded with high level positions while decimating the American portion of their workforce.

Agreed?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

By "business" of course, you mean Big Business. Because the "fundamental difference in principle" to which you refer is that Republicans believe Companies have more value than Individuals.

Republicans- they love America, but hate Americans.

i find that as absurd as when people say democrats hate their country. doesn't it bother you when people make ridiculous assertions about democrats? but then, if you do the same about republicans, how does that make you any different than the people you complain about?


personally, i think the sooner everyone realizes that they're all politicians first, party be damned, and that they only care about themselves, the better off the citizens would be. perhaps then people would start to become energized, more involved, and understand they are the ones who can make changes, not career pols who only look out for themselves and their financial supporters-not the voters.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Actually I think the recall energized the republicans and I think it back fired on Democrats. Walker won by a bigger margin than 2010. Riot and other democrats now hope for felony charges against our govenor instead of trying to create jobs, lower taxes and improve the quality of the state. It is a fundamental difference in principals. They are hoping for failure when the GOP is in charge, while most republicans never hope for failure regardless of who is in charge and do not cheer for bad news. When unemployment numbers were bad the dems were cheering. When unemployment numbers and job creation was proved to be wrong and the numbers actually showed growth the dems didn't believe it and called Walker a liar and a crook. I don't think I could ever cheer for someone to lose their job. The people of the state haven spoken stop your crying and let's get back to business.

Are you fuking kidding me? Please take off your rose colored glasses. BOTH and I repeat BOTH parties not only hope for but try to inflict failure on the other party.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

Are you fuking kidding me? Please take off your rose colored glasses. BOTH and I repeat BOTH parties not only hope for but try to inflict failure on the other party.

Are you saying the primary goal of our representative government is to get re-elected no matter the cost to the nation?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Are you saying the primary goal of our representative government is to get re-elected no matter the cost to the nation?

Mitch McConnell said that his primary goal as leader of his party in the United States Senate was to ensure the President wasn't re-elected. Proof is in his actions - repeated obstruction of bills his party has formerly supported, just because they were introduced by Democrats.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Mitch McConnell said that his primary goal as leader of his party in the United States Senate was to ensure the President wasn't re-elected. Proof is in his actions - repeated obstruction of bills his party has formerly supported, just because they were introduced by Democrats.

And the President will say and do anything to get re-elected. Including demonizing one evil wall street capitalist while allowing others to host dinners for him.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

And the President will say and do anything to get re-elected. Including demonizing one evil wall street capitalist while allowing others to host dinners for him.

All the Wall Street money has now gone to Romney this election cycle, according to election filings.

But that has nothing to do with the Senate Republicans record-setting and documented minority-filibustering and outright obstruction over the past three years.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

All the Wall Street money has now gone to Romney this election cycle, according to election filings.

But that has nothing to do with the Senate Republicans record-setting and documented minority-filibustering and outright obstruction over the past three years.

Aside from the Bain folks donating to the President and of course the Lasry dinner at 40K per person.

It has to do with setting aside what is right in order to get elected. By BOTH parties as was stated earlier in the thread.

Unions are thugs for the most part.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Are you fuking kidding me? Please take off your rose colored glasses. BOTH and I repeat BOTH parties not only hope for but try to inflict failure on the other party.

absolutely! they are both far more intent on damaging the other, thus securing power for themselves, while the country lurches along virtually rudderless. rome burning while the two neros fiddle.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by wiphan

while most republicans never hope for failure regardless of who is in charge and do not cheer for bad news.

are you schittin me!..you were j/k right?

[Clip-Clop]

dismissed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

dismissed.

Let's get this straight: You deny that Gov. Scott Walker cut union contributions? And that money saved by the state goes into making up Walker's budget deficit? And that Walker also gave tax cuts out of that very budget?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's get this straight: You deny that Gov. Scott Walker cut union contributions? And that money saved by the state goes into making up Walker's budget deficit? And that Walker also gave tax cuts out of that very budget?

Did Walker cut the union contributions or did he give the union members a choice whether they wanted to be part of the union or not? I thought as a democrat you would be all for giving the people the freedom to choose. Did Walker eliminate a monopoly of WEAC on Health Insurance again giving the school districts the right to choose?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Did Walker cut the union contributions or did he give the union members a choice whether they wanted to be part of the union or not? I thought as a democrat you would be all for giving the people the freedom to choose. Did Walker eliminate a monopoly of WEAC on Health Insurance again giving the school districts the right to choose?

Go look it up...it is in Act 10, no wait it isn't...it is in the Walker budget...no wait it isn't...it is in the RYAN budget that's where all the decisions for Wisconsin are made.

You are naive.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Go look it up...it is in Act 10, no wait it isn't...it is in the Walker budget...no wait it isn't...it is in the RYAN budget that's where all the decisions for Wisconsin are made.

You are naive.

Now I get it. The Path to Prosperity a budget proposal by Paul Ryan that has not been passed is the root cause of the destruction of the Unions in WI and now we will be forced to obey the large corporations and the Koch Brothers (who are not even in the top 50 of political donors in America) and the bill will provide Tax cuts to the wealthiest americans and corporations. Makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that one up

Did Riot move to WI to be part of the Solidarity singers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6Qf...ature=youtu.be