Horse of the World

[richard burch]

how about frankel or black caviar, where do they fit in?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by richard burch

how about frankel or black caviar, where do they fit in?

Neither has ever attempted to run on dirt.

I think Frankel would probably be very mediocre on dirt.

Frankel's sire Galileo bombed on dirt in the BC Classic and finished well behind Tiznow and Sakhee ... and Danehill on the bottom is not encouraging at all either.

I also think Black Caviar would likely perform terrible on dirt relative to how elite she is on turf.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Neither has ever attempted to run on dirt.

I think Frankel would probably be very mediocre on dirt.

Frankel's sire Galileo bombed on dirt in the BC Classic and finished well behind Tiznow and Sakhee ... and Danehill on the bottom is not encouraging at all either.

I also think Black Caviar would likely perform terrible on dirt relative to how elite she is on turf.

sorry, i guess i was missing your point. my thought was which horse would be qualified to "win the title of Horse of the World"

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by richard burch

sorry, i guess i was missing your point. my thought was which horse would be qualified to "win the title of Horse of the World"

I think to earn such a title -- you would need to be establish as the top turf horse in Europe and win a race like the Breeders Cup Classic on dirt. Or, be established as the top dirt horse in the United States and win a race like the Arc or possibly even just dominate any proper Euro Group 1 or win a race like the Dubai World Cup over the Tapeta.

[Calzone Lord]

Giant's Causeway for instance ... he never raced after the age of 3... but had he beaten Tiznow in the BC Classic -- I think he might have had a claim to "Horse of the World"

[Calzone Lord]

Sakhee was a very fragile horse ... but he was one hell of a performer.

Here was his entire 4-year-old season




He won a Group 1 in England by 7 lengths -- came back and won the Arc by 6 lengths ... huge margins against top class big fields.

He had Tiznow beat in the BC Classic in his first dirt try -- but didn't put him away and lost by a nose.