Tuesday primaries

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Don't worry he wil be thrown in jail for years, while the woman who threatened govenor walker and his family didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

Care to comment on how good old Tom didn't know where he was the day before when asked where he was when he didn't show up for a memorial for policemen who lost their lives while in the line of duty? Seems like a lot of out of state money coming in for Barrett. I don't see you complaining about this like you do with Walker.

Another question for you on the so called made up jobs numbers. If WI is losing jobs according to your accurate survey of 3.5% of businesses in the state than how did the unemployment rate continually drop?

You alleged that Barrett's wife did, to quote you, something "illegal". Still waiting on you to say what that was. Was she arrested? What charges were filed?

Walker is a stone cold liar about Wisconsin jobs numbers, and about being an ALEC-owned poster boy. Just admit it. Feel free to vote for him, but at least be honest about what you are voting for.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

You alleged that Barrett's wife did, to quote you, something "illegal". Still waiting on you to say what that was. Was she arrested? What charges were filed?

Walker is a stone cold liar about Wisconsin jobs numbers, and about being an ALEC-owned poster boy. Just admit it. Feel free to vote for him, but at least be honest about what you are voting for.

For someone who financial supports a candidate I would assume you would know what you are supporting. I personally do not financially support any politicians and save my money for real charities and causes that do good for people and society. Barrett's wife while working for MPS used her MPS email during government time and sent emails to politicians supporting the recall. This is in fact illegal. If she currently worked for MPS she would have had to be fired. She does not currently work there so nothing will become of it

Your answer to the above post was typical for you, skirt the question and attack. As far as the job numbers:

Fact- the original number from the department of labor statistics are taken from a survey of 3.5% of businesses in the state

Fact- WI's unemployment dropped in 2011

Fact- the current numbers released were taken from a sample of 96.5% of businesses in WI.

You can use the numbers any way you want them to, but how can the unemployment rate go down if we are losing jobs?

Face the facts. The democrats and Barrett have nothing left to campaign on

Collective Bargaining- majority of WI is with Walker on this and the democrats don't even really support this or Falk would have won

Jobs- real numbers show job growth in the state

Taxes, budget- improving, people are seeing it for themselves

Recalls- The majority of WI is sick of the recalls and the money it cost the state. The majority of WI is tired of sore losers. Recalls are meant for misconduct in office, not for someone who is against your beliefs

John Doe investigation- this is the Democrats last hope. They keep holding onto this because this is all they have. Do you know who requested the John Doe investigation originally? Oh yeah it was Govenor Walker himself

Barrett is a terrible candidate- latest blunder exploited him again. He will be crushed in the debates.

Now the liberal newspaper even came out in Mayor Barrett's back yard in support of the Govenor.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Barrett's wife while working for MPS used her MPS email during government time and sent emails to politicians supporting the recall. This is in fact illegal.

No. It is not "illegal". And you have grossly mischaracterized what she did. It was a simple violation of workplace rules. She sent two private e-mails from her work computer supporting political candidates unassociated with her husband or work. OH MY GOD!

Why you worry about this (sneaking your work computer to send two private e-mails) and you neglect to worry about the multiple felony arrests out of Walkers office for malfeasance is unbelievable.

There's a bit of cognitive dissonance here - do multiple felony arrests by the FBI over political misuse of government equipment and office space, literally feet from Walker's desk by more than one of his employees, worry you at all? Yes or no?

You can repeat Walker's false attempts to color his dismal and inadequate performance record, and pretend they are "facts", but that doesn't change the reality of it. The Bureau of Labor Statistics says clearly otherwise, and Walker using magic made-up methodology doesn't change it.

Seems that you are filled with alot of anger and hate over this. Vote for Walker. He's ahead right now. He may win. I certainly hope not. But a least he can't push through the ALEC agenda any more, with the recalls successful already in the legislature, and more pending.

If Barrett wins, will your excuse be that the Democrats cheated? <vbg>

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

No. It is not "illegal". And you have grossly mischaracterized what she did. It was a simple violation of workplace rules. She sent two private e-mails from her work computer supporting political candidates unassociated with her husband or work. OH MY GOD!

Why you worry about this (sneaking your work computer to send two private e-mails) and you neglect to worry about the multiple felony arrests out of Walkers office for malfeasance is unbelievable.

There's a bit of cognitive dissonance here - do multiple felony arrests by the FBI over political misuse of government equipment and office space, literally feet from Walker's desk by more than one of his employees, worry you at all? Yes or no?

You can repeat Walker's false attempts to color his dismal and inadequate performance record, and pretend they are "facts", but that doesn't change the reality of it. The Bureau of Labor Statistics says clearly otherwise, and Walker using magic made-up methodology doesn't change it.

Seems that you are filled with alot of anger and hate over this. Vote for Walker. He's ahead right now. He may win. I certainly hope not. But a least he can't push through the ALEC agenda any more, with the recalls successful already in the legislature, and more pending.

SKirt the questions again, huh? No hate or anger on my side.

Simply answer this question for me

How can the unemployment rate in the state of WI continually decline but yet the state lose 23k+ jobs?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

SKirt the questions again, huh? No hate or anger on my side.

Simply answer this question for me

How can the unemployment rate in the state of WI continually decline but yet the state lose 23k+ jobs?

Simply answer this question for me: why are you not worried about multiple felony arrests of multiple employees out of Walker's office at his last government job?

Doesn't that raise some white flags for those worried about law breaking?

What about Walker being caught lying on video about his ALEC-given goal of union-busting? Doesn't lying outright to his constituents worry you?

Unemployment and jobs available are not mutually reflexive numbers completely and inversely dependent upon one another. You are relating two separate things. The long-term unemployed people are falling off the rolls and failing to be counted.

According to the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics Wisconsin had the worse jobs numbers in the country for 2011. The real numbers just came out after Walker's faked press release numbers last week showing the real job loss was over 6,000 the past month.

At a time when Wisconsin's jobs statistics are under scrutiny as never before, preliminary data released Thursday showed that Wisconsin lost an estimated 6,200 private-sector jobs in April.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/sta...151909605.html

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Unemployment and jobs available are not mutually reflexive numbers completely and inversely dependent upon one another. You are relating two separate things. The long-term unemployed people are falling off the rolls and failing to be counted.

According to the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics Wisconsin had the worse jobs numbers in the country for 2011. The real numbers just came out after Walker's faked press release numbers last week showing the real job loss was over 6,000 the past two months.

Not talking about available jobs, talking about job losses/gains. Good to know when the numbers work in your favor they are rock solid (even though they are from a survey of 3.5% of total businesses), but when the Government comes out with revised corrected numbers that are based on 96.5% of businesses they are completely made up and false since they didn't come out in your favor. Totally explains why there is a recall in WI right now....

If somehow Barrett wins then the dems get what they want. It will be solely because they get their people to the polls. good for them. Then we will see what they will do to rectify the problems of the state.

[Riot]

Walker declares that if he loses his election, it will be due to massive and substantial one-sided voter fraud and Democratics cheating.

His allegation, of course, is completely disproven by ... well, facts.

But this is Scotty Walker. Facts don't matter.

Per Dave Weigel, Slate
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...wisconsin.html

There might be some question. The voter fraud issue was investigated in Wisconsin fairly recently, in the form of an Election Fraud Task Force and a deep dive into 2008's vote results.

The yearlong investigation charged 20 people -- this in an election with around 3 million ballots.

For fraud to equal "one or two points" in that election, you'd have needed 30,000-60,000 phony ballots.

The proven fraud actually amounted to 0.0007 percent of all votes.

The people who oppose voter ID laws say they're doing it to rescue the votes of poor or elderly people who lack current IDs. Sure, yes, this would probably be the cover story they'd use if they were trying to make life easier for criminals. But perhaps they're not! It's a possibility Walker rules out.