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Old 03-24-2012, 06:46 PM
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For me, Centeno coming back has suddenly made TBD much less enjoyable to bet.
Serious question here. Why?
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:30 PM
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Serious question here. Why?
Because he has dominated these guys for so long, that you know every trainer is gonna try and get him on all their live horses, so you are almost gonna be inclined to use him so many of his mounts...mounts that with other jocks on, you feel more comfortable tossing. He so overbet at times and there is just no value there. It's just frustrating for me, personally. I have never had any luck betting him or betting against him.

I know I'm preaching to the choir telling you this, but you know the work that goes into figuring out all the little trainer nuances, jockey nuances, who does what well, etc...that he just completely throws a wrench in to it for me.
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Old 03-25-2012, 12:21 PM
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Because he has dominated these guys for so long, that you know every trainer is gonna try and get him on all their live horses, so you are almost gonna be inclined to use him so many of his mounts...mounts that with other jocks on, you feel more comfortable tossing. He so overbet at times and there is just no value there. It's just frustrating for me, personally. I have never had any luck betting him or betting against him.

I know I'm preaching to the choir telling you this, but you know the work that goes into figuring out all the little trainer nuances, jockey nuances, who does what well, etc...that he just completely throws a wrench in to it for me.
Up until yesterday, he has been very pedestrian and I was having no issues with playing against his overbet mounts. He was winning at about a 10% clip over his first two weeks.

However, it looks like he has found his form....
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:05 PM
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Early P4

3 - 1,3,4,5
4 - 1,3,6,8,9
5 - 1,8,10
6 - 2,7

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Old 03-25-2012, 01:24 PM
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Thanks again erryone.

Early 4
2,3,5 / 1,6,9 / 1,5,7,8,10 / 2,4,7
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:27 PM
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Early P4

3 - 1,3,4,5
4 - 1,3,6,8,9
5 - 1,8,10
6 - 2,7

GL
Hey I still have your coolers from Festival Day over here - didn't wantcha to think I forgot about 'em
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:44 PM
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9 was about a thousand bucks shorter than the 1 at post, so I'm guessing the late scratch of the 8 put my money there rather than the 1
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