Something Is Wrong at Remington Park

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Just curious, what made you think to check the payouts at Remington?

I bet the winner to win and place. After the horses crossed the wire, I checked to see what my horse was going to pay to place. I do this all the time. Instead of just waiting for 2 minutes until the result is official, I am always curious to see what my horse is going to pay to place so I quickly do the math. I couldn't belive it when the horse only paid $9.00 to place because he should have paid $11. Then I figured I would see if there was a mistake in the win pool too and sure enough there was.

Anyway, I just called Remington back and their explanation was that it has to do with Canadien money coming into the pool. I don't know if that is true or not but the bottom line is that the take at Remington is over 30% in the WPS pools. I did the math on the next race and the same thing happened. The winner had $6,543 bet to win on him and there was $17,423 in the win pool. He should have paid $4.20 to win but he only paid $3.40.

By the way, the reason I made a bet at Remington was because there was a 2 year old running that I liked at the Keeneland April Sale that was in the 5th race. He was the horse that paid $20.20 to win tonight.

[ArlJim78]

I see. Something sounds fishy there. Wouldn't canadian money coming in effect other tracks the same way? I've also thought that you could calculate the payoffs yourself like you did and that they would be accurate.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I see. Something sounds fishy there. Wouldn't canadian money coming in effect other tracks the same way? I've also thought that you could calculate the payoffs yourself like you did and that they would be accurate.

Yes, I do these calculations every day and they are always accurate. Sometimes I'm off by 20 cents or so but that's about it. This has never happened before.

The thing about the Canadien money sounds fishy to me too. I'm going to have to look into this.

[sumitas]

hmmm. good work. sounds like sticky fingers at remington.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I see. Something sounds fishy there. Wouldn't canadian money coming in effect other tracks the same way? I've also thought that you could calculate the payoffs yourself like you did and that they would be accurate.

There is something called "net pool pricing" that tracks have begun using to incorporate foreign currency bets into US pools. It's a recent phenomenom--I first noticed it in August.

Here are 2 links that discuss it:

http://www.nyra.com/belmont/news.asp?id=1758&track=B

http://www.fingerlakesracetrack.com/...net-pool%20%22

New York began doing this in 2005. If this year's Travers had used the old payoff system, Bernardini would have paid $2.20 instead of $2.10 to place. On the other hand, Bluegrass Cat would have paid $2.40 instead of $2.50.

I didn't think it was supposed to affect win payouts, though.

--Dunbar

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

There is something called "net pool pricing" that tracks have begun using to incorporate foreign currency bets into US pools. It's a recent phenomenom--I first noticed it in August.

Here are 2 links that discuss it:

http://www.nyra.com/belmont/news.asp?id=1758&track=B

http://www.fingerlakesracetrack.com/...net-pool%20%22

New York began doing this in 2005. If this year's Travers had used the old payoff system, Bernardini would have paid $2.20 instead of $2.10 to place. On the other hand, Bluegrass Cat would have paid $2.40 instead of $2.50.

I didn't think it was supposed to affect win payouts, though.

--Dunbar

Dun, does not effect win pools, only Place/Show pools. Canadian excuse is bogus here.

The other question that needs to be played is WHY is Rupert playing Remington Park? Even I, who tries to find tracks I have never played and play them to tell people I have placed a wager (Araphoe anyone?) wouldn't admit that I placed a wager in a non-stakes race at Remington

Good luck today guys

[The Bid]

Colorado? Watch out for T wales there, he brushes the dirt off his shoulder everytime he wins.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Scav

Dun, does not effect win pools, only Place/Show pools. Canadian excuse is bogus here.

The other question that needs to be played is WHY is Rupert playing Remington Park? Even I, who tries to find tracks I have never played and play them to tell people I have placed a wager (Araphoe anyone?) wouldn't admit that I placed a wager in a non-stakes race at Remington

Good luck today guys

I keep track of all the year 2 year olds that I liked that came out of the 2 year old in training sales. There was a Stephen Got Even colt trained by Scot Blasi running at Remington last night that sold for $170,000 that I liked at the Keeneland April Sale. That was the horse I bet at Remington. I bet 4 races yesterday total at all the tracks. I bet one race at Woodbine, one at Aqueduct, one at Hollywood, and one at Remington.

[Danzig]

funny tho rupe that someone would wonder why you bet at rem--you made money, best reason in the world!

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I keep track of all the year 2 year olds that I liked that came out of the 2 year old in training sales. There was a Stephen Got Even colt trained by Scot Blasi running at Remington last night that sold for $170,000 that I liked at the Keeneland April Sale. That was the horse I bet at Remington. I bet 4 races yesterday total at all the tracks. I bet one race at Woodbine, one at Aqueduct, one at Hollywood, and one at Remington.

LOL Rup, was joking around......going to continue reading the rest of the post