Religious Freedomz in the USA

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

To be honest birth control pills and the morning after drug should be sold over the counter at all drug stores. Yeah I know condoms already are but I think its safe to say in the heat of the moment alot of times they are not used. Maybe the reason these things are not sold over the counter for the most part is that it cuts out the middle man and the dollars he or she makes from stupid doctor visits to get something that should be made available to all women as easy as buying a pack of gum.

I'd disagree. The "morning after" pill has a big safety margin (which is why it's OTC in some other countries) but birth control pills do not. They must remain dispensable only upon a doctors advice.

Having improved preventive care required by the ACA to all insured Americans will lower health care costs for all. Better to prevent a disease than to have to treat it.

Regarding birth control, the ACA does now make it "as easy as getting a pack of gum" - only unlike gum, no cash required up front.

Unless the looniest of conservatives take that away, like they are trying to now.

Conservatives don't like women having reproductive freedom. They rather support big government dictatorships and theocracies, delineating what certain people can and cannot do. Especially women. The assault on woman's rights is unprecedented in the past 60 years. Government in your bedroom and private life. These people are dictatorial loons. Sharia Law in the US - only it's "Christian" Law they want to impose.

[Honu]

There is a vending machine in a University in Pa that dispenses the morning after pill. To me women who have unprotected sex, meaning a condom are taking more of a risk than taking a pill the nite after having sex and remembering that they didnt take their birth control.
The easiest solution as I have stated would be to offer both at the drug store....you dont get to go to the doctor for free unless you are signed up for government health care. What would be even cooler is if they made a pill for men to take that would make them sterile everyday that they took it, then all the burden wouldnt be on the woman to make sure she doesnt get preggo.

[bigrun]

Birth control as election issue? Why?

Using birth control has been settled social behavior, not a taboo but an ordinary scrip that virtually all American women present at the drugstore counter at some point in their lives. Now, seemingly all of a sudden, gender warfare is erupting anew, at least in the spheres where political agitation thrives.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...c=nl_headlines

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Birth control as election issue? Why?

Using birth control has been settled social behavior, not a taboo but an ordinary scrip that virtually all American women present at the drugstore counter at some point in their lives. Now, seemingly all of a sudden, gender warfare is erupting anew, at least in the spheres where political agitation thrives.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...c=nl_headlines

it amazes me that some religions and pols are still so damned hung up about sex. like ayoung girl said sometime in the middle ages....'it felt good. no way that was a sin'

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

There is a vending machine in a University in Pa that dispenses the morning after pill. To me women who have unprotected sex, meaning a condom are taking more of a risk than taking a pill the nite after having sex and remembering that they didnt take their birth control.
The easiest solution as I have stated would be to offer both at the drug store....you dont get to go to the doctor for free unless you are signed up for government health care.

For clarity, the ACA requires insurance companies to provide an increased variety of preventative health care services for free. You don't need "government health care", your private insurance company now covers that.

What would be even cooler is if they made a pill for men to take that would make them sterile everyday that they took it, then all the burden wouldnt be on the woman to make sure she doesnt get preggo.

If males could have babies, birth control would be free, available everywhere.

[Honu]

I love your last sentence......MEN ARE THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF PREGNANCY lololol....at some point it should be an even game and they should have to take pills everyday or get their semen hole sown shut lol.
Hey Big, a woman being the sole person responsible for not being pregnant has long been a gender issue, I think its high time a man wanting to get some should have at least the same responsiblity not just the bragging rights as to how good he banged her and how much she liked it lol.

And the government and churches should stay the F*ck out of it.

Originally Posted by Riot

If males could have babies, birth control would be free, available everywhere.

And abortion would be a sacrament!


Ocala Mike

Originally Posted by Riot

Conservatives don't like women having reproductive freedom. They rather support big government dictatorships and theocracies, delineating what certain people can and cannot do. Especially women. The assault on woman's rights is unprecedented in the past 60 years. Government in your bedroom and private life. These people are dictatorial loons. Sharia Law in the US - only it's "Christian" Law they want to impose.

They want to impose Genesis 3:16 -

" Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

I think I heard Santorum make outlandish remarks invoking Satan as the great enemy of the US. Swear he's sounding more and more like a mullah every day. Next it'll be zombies, vampires, and werewolves trying to deprive us of our freedom.


Ocala Mike