Gov Walker steals from mortgage settlement fund

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

why don't you respond to the facts that I posted and the actual mortgage settlement documents instead of your own random thoughts or what you read on liberal blogs or newspapers

Why are you trying to change the subject? Why the name calling? Why don't you respond to the multiple legal problems Walker and Fitzgerald have caused the state, rather than going off on tangents?

Your effort to make the banks the victims in the mortgage fraud settlelment is a ridiculous defense of your industry.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why are you trying to change the subject? Why the name calling? Why don't you respond to the multiple legal problems Walker and Fitzgerald have caused the state, rather than going off on tangents?

Really. Your subject is walker steals from the mortgage settlement fund. I gave you the actual part from the settlement which shows how the money is supposed to be handled by the state. The settlement specifically states that a portion of the money can be used for civil penalties to be paid to the state for robosigning. Walker used a portion of the money to apply to the budget. Please explain how I am wrong and how this is wrong. If the banks avoided paying government recording fees by robosigning wouldn't the state be eligible to receive that income along with civil penalties?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Really. Your subject is walker steals from the mortgage settlement fraud. I gave you the actual part from the settlement which shows how the money is supposed to be handled by the state. The settlement specifically states that a portion of the money can be used for civil penalties to be paid to the state for robosigning.

You probably need to read up in those conservative blogs and papers again. What loss has Wisconsin suffered, "exactly", due to robosigning? Seems they, like homeowners, will have to show they were affected, and in what amount.

But why would that money go into Scott Walker's budget deficit? Rather than into the target of the settlement, housing-associated problems brought on by the mortgage fraud and intended to rectify it?

Face it, you're wrong about the ability of states to freely use the settlement money for whatever the hell they want. Thinking that money going to Wisconsin regarding robosigning can be simply placed into the general budget doesn't meet the very requirements of the settlement you are quoting.

Pretending that "Well, we guess Wisconsin lost property tax money because of the housing crisis, so we can steal some of the settlement money in lieu of property tax money to fix my budget crisis before my recall" is baloney.

But that decision by Walker and the state Attorney General, too, will cost Wisconsin money when that action of Walker's goes to court. Poor Walker - everything he does ends up in court. Well, the court will decide this one, too.

Tell me, Wiphan - what do you think about Walker lying about having balanced the budget? What do you think about Wisconsin's - Walker's - six straight months of job loss, the worse in the nation? What do you think about the multiple felony charges coming out of his Country office, and him being investigated, for political malfeasance and stealing from the public (doing campaign work while the public pays for it)? You really think this guy is doing a good job for Wisconsin?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

You probably need to read up in those conservative blogs and papers again. What loss has Wisconsin suffered, "exactly", due to robosigning? Seems they, like homeowners, will have to show they were affected, and in what amount.

But why would that money go into Scott Walker's budget deficit? Rather than into the target of the settlement, housing-associated problems brought on by the mortgage fraud and intended to rectify it?

Face it, you're wrong about the ability of states to freely use the settlement money for whatever the hell they want. Thinking that money going to Wisconsin regarding robosigning can be placed into the general budget doesn't meet the very requirements of the settlement you are quoting.

Pretending that "Well, we guess Wisconsin lost property tax money because of the housing crisis, so we can steal some of the settlement money in lieu of property tax money to fix my budget crisis before my recall" is baloney.

But that decision by Walker and the state Attorney General, too, will cost Wisconsin money when that action of Walker's goes to court. Poor Walker - everything he does ends up in court. Well, the court will decide this one, too.

Do you know what civil penalties are? What is your plan with the $140 million?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Do you know what civil penalties are? What is your plan with the $140 million?

Do you not know what the settlement says the monies are to be used for?

Padding lying Scotties budget deficit, at the expense of Wisconsin citizens, isn't one of them.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you not know what the settlement says the monies are to be used for?

Padding lying Scotties budget deficit, at the expense of Wisconsin citizens, isn't one of them.

You obviously can't read. I will try again. A PORTION OF THE $ paid to the states CAN BE CONSIDERED CIVIL PENALTIES! If the state collects some money as civil penalities where does that money go?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by wiphan

You obviously can't read. I will try again. A PORTION OF THE $ paid to the states CAN BE CONSIDERED CIVIL PENALTIES! If the state collects some money as civil penalities where does that money go?

LOL Funny you had to repeat this like 62 times

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

You obviously can't read. I will try again. A PORTION OF THE $ paid to the states CAN BE CONSIDERED CIVIL PENALTIES! If the state collects some money as civil penalities where does that money go?

I'll try again: WAY AHEAD OF YOU. READ THE SETTLEMENT. The money going to the states - in yes, civil penalties, money just for use by the states, not for the victims of the fraud, not for underwater mortgages, the exact monies are you talking about - are outlined in the settlement to be used for housing-related losses/programs at the state level.

Not their general fund.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

You probably need to read up in those conservative blogs and papers again. What loss has Wisconsin suffered, "exactly", due to robosigning? Seems they, like homeowners, will have to show they were affected, and in what amount.

But why would that money go into Scott Walker's budget deficit? Rather than into the target of the settlement, housing-associated problems brought on by the mortgage fraud and intended to rectify it?

Face it, you're wrong about the ability of states to freely use the settlement money for whatever the hell they want. Thinking that money going to Wisconsin regarding robosigning can be simply placed into the general budget doesn't meet the very requirements of the settlement you are quoting.

Pretending that "Well, we guess Wisconsin lost property tax money because of the housing crisis, so we can steal some of the settlement money in lieu of property tax money to fix my budget crisis before my recall" is baloney.

But that decision by Walker and the state Attorney General, too, will cost Wisconsin money when that action of Walker's goes to court. Poor Walker - everything he does ends up in court. Well, the court will decide this one, too.

Tell me, Wiphan - what do you think about Walker lying about having balanced the budget? What do you think about Wisconsin's - Walker's - six straight months of job loss, the worse in the nation? What do you think about the multiple felony charges coming out of his Country office, and him being investigated, for political malfeasance and stealing from the public (doing campaign work while the public pays for it)? You really think this guy is doing a good job for Wisconsin?

Who runs a good state government? WHich Governor is the model by which all others should be measured?
Because you have chosen Walker as your target, you find things to abuse. Why do you not question everyone else in the same manner with the same vigor? What did Walker ever do that effected you directly?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Who runs a good state government? WHich Governor is the model by which all others should be measured?
Because you have chosen Walker as your target, you find things to abuse. Why do you not question everyone else in the same manner with the same vigor? What did Walker ever do that effected you directly?

Victimhood so soon?

Nonsense. No, Walker promised alot, then immediately went about union busting, lying, and getting in legal trouble. He's destroying the state.

As I have said, I have family and friends there, let alone a vested property interest. But I don't need anybody's permission to pay attention to the politics in Wisconsin. Every citizen in this country - at least those that care - have been paying attention to the ALEC agenda being put forth by the Republican Governors Association: Walker in Wisconsin, Snyder, Scott in Florida, Ohio. They are destroying those states.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Victimhood so soon?

Nonsense. No, Walker promised alot, then immediately went about union busting, lying, and getting in legal trouble. He's destroying the state.

As I have said, I have family and friends there, let alone a vested property interest. But I don't need anybody's permission to pay attention to the politics in Wisconsin. Every citizen in this country - at least those that care - have been paying attention to the ALEC agenda being put forth by the Republican Governors Association: Walker in Wisconsin, Snyder, Scott in Florida, Ohio. They are destroying those states.

So nobody then? You cannot provide a good example because if you try that person will be slapped around because they are all dirty.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why are you trying to change the subject? Why the name calling? Why don't you respond to the multiple legal problems Walker and Fitzgerald have caused the state, rather than going off on tangents?

Your effort to make the banks the victims in the mortgage fraud settlelment is a ridiculous defense of your industry.

Please show me in this thread where I am defending the banks or calling the banks victims. I am pointing out to you where you are wrong about the settlement. End of story. Obviously there was wrong doing otherwise the banks wouldn't have cut this deal. You simply do not understand the settlement. The banks are doing a lot from this settlement outside of the payments to the state. Please take the time to read the few sentences I gave you from the settlement and specifically comment on that.