John Kerry, Nobody?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You need to read his quote again. I think what he said is very clear. He said that, "You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. and if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

I think the meaning is clear. The other possible meaning does not make sense. Do you honestly think he was saying that if you don't get a good education that you will end up being President and making bad decisions on Iraq? That's ridiculous. That's not what he was saying. He was saying that if you don't get educated you won't have many options in terms of career and you may end up in the military stuck in Iraq. That is clearly what he meant. He didn't mean that you would end up being President and keeping us in Iraq. That doesn't make sense.

Kerry has a history of putting his foot in his mouth when it comes to the military. His past comments have nade it clear that he thinks that if there is no draft that the military is for poor people and minorities. He was quoted in the 1970s as saying, "I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown." He obviously has no clue that plenty of educated people join the military by choice.

Rupert,
You and I don't agree on this at all.
The transcript of Kerry's speech is widely available. He misread it. He was attempting to say that Bush didn't do his homework before he lead the country to war in Iraq.
Kerry has since apologized.
The repubs continue to spin this for its "distraction effect".
Here's an article that you might find interesting.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1102-33.htm
Peace.
DTS

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
You and I don't agree on this at all.
The transcript of Kerry's speech is widely available. He misread it. He was attempting to say that Bush didn't do his homework before he lead the country to war in Iraq.
Kerry has since apologized.
The repubs continue to spin this for its "distraction effect".
Here's an article that you might find interesting.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1102-33.htm
Peace.
DTS

Nobody is trying to spin it. There is no need to spin it. His words speak for themselves. The only one trying to spin it is you.

Maybe I'm wrong. I guess what he meant to say is that if you don't do your homework, you will end up being the Presidnet and getting us into a war. I guess that's what he was saying. That's a real logical interpretation of his words. LOL.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Nobody is trying to spin it. There is no need to spin it. His words speak for themselves. The only one trying to spin it is you.

Maybe I'm wrong. I guess what he meant to say is that if you don't do your homework, you will end up being the Presidnet and getting us into a war. I guess that's what he was saying. That's a real logical interpretation of his words. LOL.

Rupert,
I'm not "spinning" anything as I control no media outlets, nor do I have press secretaries. If you truely believe that "no one is trying to spin it", you might want to google Bush's comments on Kerry, or Tony Snow's. DUH?
I'm inclined to agree with your first sentence in your second paragraph. You are correct on that.
Logic? Real interpretation??? Sounds like you're eating too much "red meat",
or meadow muffins (pasture patties). LOL!!!

btw...if you don't do your homework, you might end up spelling president incorrectly as presidnet and get it marked off on your spelling test. Just might keep you off the 5th grade honor roll.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
I'm not "spinning" anything as I control no media outlets, nor do I have press secretaries. If you truely believe that "no one is trying to spin it", you might want to google Bush's comments on Kerry, or Tony Snow's. DUH?
I'm inclined to agree with your first sentence in your second paragraph. You are correct on that.
Logic? Real interpretation??? Sounds like you're eating too much "red meat",
or meadow muffins (pasture patties). LOL!!!

btw...if you don't do your homework, you might end up spelling president incorrectly as presidnet and get it marked off on your spelling test. Just might keep you off the 5th grade honor roll.

I was being sarcastic when I was talking about the "logical interpretation" of his comments. I was making fun of you guys who who have been saying you know what Kerry really meant and that everybody is misinterpreting Kerry's words.

You don't need to be in the media to "spin" something. When you try to blame the republicans for Kerry's comments, you are "spinning" the story. Your attempt to spin the story is not working. Everybody knows what Kerry said and he is responsible for what came out of his mouth. You can try to blame someone else but nobody is going to buy it. Even the democratic leaders are not buying it. They have all said that Kerry's comments were inappropriate and that he needs to apologize.

Since you brought up spelling errors, I should let you kow that "truly" is spelled "truly" not "truely".

[Danzig]

in a way kerrys comments remind me of others' failed attempts at a 'joke'. some in the past have had to step down after facing a huge backlash for making a rape 'joke'. you know, the one that says once you realize it's inevitable, just lay back and enjoy it....yeah, some joke. it amazes me how often people say something, realize just how crappy it sounded, and then backpedal and claim they were just kidding. of course when some are so willing to believe that line of b.s., i can see why it's still used as an excuse for 'open mouth,insert foot syndrome'.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I was being sarcastic when I was talking about the "logical interpretation" of his comments. I was making fun of you guys who who have been saying you know what Kerry really meant and that everybody is misinterpreting Kerry's words.

You don't need to be in the media to "spin" something. When you try to blame the republicans for Kerry's comments, you are "spinning" the story. Your attempt to spin the story is not working. Everybody knows what Kerry said and he is responsible for what came out of his mouth. You can try to blame someone else but nobody is going to buy it. Even the democratic leaders are not buying it. They have all said that Kerry's comments were inappropriate and that he needs to apologize.

Since you brought up spelling errors, I should let you kow that "truly" is spelled "truly" not "truely".

Rupert,
Spelling issues aside, I stated earlier in this thread that I thought Kerry did something stupid. He has apologized.
Seems to me that the longer Kerry's "joke" can hold the headlines, the less discussion about the real concern of the Iraq debacle.
I'm still waiting to hear the apology for that one...and it won't come from Kerry.
DTS

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
Spelling issues aside, I stated earlier in this thread that I thought Kerry did something stupid. He has apologized.
Seems to me that the longer Kerry's "joke" can hold the headlines, the less discussion about the real concern of the Iraq debacle.
I'm still waiting to hear the apology for that one...and it won't come from Kerry.
DTS

Iraq is the main thing on people's minds. All the polls that have been done lately show that. Iraq is the main reason that the republicans are going to do poorly in the upoming election. The msot recent numbers show that people are relatively pleased with Bush' handling of the economy. He has a 51% approval rating on the economy. It is the Iraq issue that is killing the republicans.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I was being sarcastic when I was talking about the "logical interpretation" of his comments. I was making fun of you guys who who have been saying you know what Kerry really meant and that everybody is misinterpreting Kerry's words.

You don't need to be in the media to "spin" something. When you try to blame the republicans for Kerry's comments, you are "spinning" the story. Your attempt to spin the story is not working. Everybody knows what Kerry said and he is responsible for what came out of his mouth. You can try to blame someone else but nobody is going to buy it. Even the democratic leaders are not buying it. They have all said that Kerry's comments were inappropriate and that he needs to apologize.

Since you brought up spelling errors, I should let you kow that "truly" is spelled "truly" not "truely".

Rupert,
Do you have anything to disagree with Ralph Nader's take on this?
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1104-28.htm

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Rupert,
Do you have anything to disagree with Ralph Nader's take on this?
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1104-28.htm

As I said, I don't want to debate you any more because you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change your mind.

However, I did read the article and I will answer your question. I don't agree with what Nader said about Kerry simply leaving the word "us" out. Could Nader's explanation be correct? It could be. I'm not saying that it's impossible. It's possible but I don't think that it's likely.

With regard to Nader's criticisms about the war, I think there is truth to some of the stuff he is saying. I think he is obviously being one-sided in his criticisms, but I do think that there is some truth to a lot of the things that he said.

Anyway, no more debates. It's a waste of time for both of us.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

As I said, I don't want to debate you any more because you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change your mind.

However, I did read the article and I will answer your question. I don't agree with what Nader said about Kerry simply leaving the word "us" out. Could Nader's explanation be correct? It could be. I'm not saying that it's impossible. It's possible but I don't think that it's likely.

With regard to Nader's criticisms about the war, I think there is truth to some of the stuff he is saying. I think he is obviously being one-sided in his criticisms, but I do think that there is some truth to a lot of the things that he said.

Anyway, no more debates. It's a waste of time for both of us.

Yup, Rupert.
"A waste of time" is right.
"One sided"? HMMM......
I'm thrilled that you admitted defeat and apologized for it.
Now, if we could only get Rummy and his commander-in-deceit to start thinking that way, more people would live.
See all you guys after Tuesday. As "O" would say..."bring your shine box".