The US Private Healthcare System fails again

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wouldn't it be better that she had been able to be insurable in the US? (purchase of temporary travelers insurance).

She had the ability, she just didn't do it.

Too bad her Universal Canadian policy didn't cover her. But I guess to the canadian gov the universe in universal stops at the border.

Now Riot, how will the millions of illegals living here be handled under Obamacare. Will they:

1) Be required and able to purchase health insurance
2) Be subsidized for a policy if unable to pay
3) Be treated via ER as they are now
4) Be refused treatment

And while we're at it. Will Americans who refuse to abide by the requirement to have insurance

1) Still be treated at the ER w/o insurance
2) Be refused treatment

Because as you have stated ad nauseum there is no fine or threat of jail for not abiding so I tend to think a lot of uninsured people will simply ingnore the 'requirement'

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

She had the ability, she just didn't do it.

Really? Find a private US insurance firm that will write a travel insurance policy for an elite athlete competing in that dangerous sport, then let us know the cost.

Although I just realized: that will be available by the end of next year, due to Obamacares. The ACA exchanges kick in next year, and will be fully functional by the end. So there will be insurance companies (probably the non-profits on the exchanges) that will start writing high-risk policies.

People have said that the above provision, that of allowing non-profit insurance companies to enter the exchange market, will do for healthcare opportunity costs what Medicare currently does. As the non--profits don't have to gouge for a profit-margin (like Medicare, which is much less expensive to deliver than private insurance) - they will be able to undercut the for-profits markedly for both healthy and unhealthy patients.

Now Riot, how will the millions of illegals living here be handled under Obamacare. Will they:

Just the same way they are now. They are here illegally.

Some of the non-profits have the highest medicare supplement premiums in the country. You're delusional as usual.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Some of the non-profits have the highest medicare supplement premiums in the country. You're delusional as usual.

Let's remove your useless bi.tchy snark, and try again:

Some of the non-profits have the highest medicare supplement premiums in the country.

Yes. But that will change once the current competition environment changes.

It won't change and will eventually skyrocket because 'tards ( the ones you want to protect) won't get coverage and the expense will be added to the pool. The "tax" won't cover it

Now take your pro-Obama horses.hit and shove it, b.itch. I'm tired of your flouride-ridden drivel.

[Danzig]

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...er-sarah-burke


in the article it discusses the medical bills (totals revised downwards), insurance that could have been purchased, that canada does pay the medical bills of it's citizens when they are treated outside the country (but off canada's price list-you'd have to pay the difference if it's higher)etc.
note that the lowered bill is more than covered by donations.

i find it odd that people would donate-i have no doubt that this young lady had funds to pay bills. she wasn't a down on her luck person, but a sponsored olympic champ. but what people do with their money is their business.


as for people here declaring bankruptcy due to medical-people here declare bankruptcy for a variety of reasons. perhaps the bankruptcy laws are too lenient? people become awash in debt for many reasons, so like the catholic church, do a bit of penance and you're good to go. many don't declare even when faced with high bills-they pay what they can when they can.

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's remove your useless bi.tchy snark, and try again:



Yes. But that will change once the current competition environment changes.

I cannot believe that you would complain to a moderator about my abusive language yet use the same type of language in your posts.

You are a disgrace to disingenuous liberals nationwide. For shame.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I cannot believe that you would complain to a moderator about my abusive language yet use the same type of language in your posts.

You are a disgrace to disingenuous liberals nationwide. For shame.

just apologize to the board and it'll be ok.

I would like to apologize to the board for calling Riot some of her many nicknames. Many times in the past I have called her these nicknames and she took them with a badge of honor. Now it seems she's gone socially conservative on us.

Oh lawd. Please forgive me. Ah have sinned.