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10-21-2011, 03:54 PM
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 Because the Iraqis requested us to, and only with a few thousand training troops ! "Obama and company wanted to stay" - except where he got 40,000 combat troops out a year early?Well, we can all be happy that's done.
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10-21-2011, 03:57 PM
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 yes, we can only consider obama in a good light. sorry, i forgot that. although he and his administration were doing everything possible to stay, absolutely i give him sole credit for not doing so. he should have statues built in his honor for doing what was said would be done, regardless of what he really wanted.
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10-21-2011, 04:04 PM
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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...raq-withdrawal How DARE Obama end that war! US politics are completely effed.
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10-21-2011, 04:11 PM
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he took the troops from iraq and sent them to afganistan..wake up riot..your lame duck prez is done..
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10-21-2011, 04:21 PM
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And oh, yeah, there were lots of Republicans who wanted the direction to be after the terrorists in Afghanistan, too - until bin Laden was actually killed by this President. Mission accomplished. It's hilarious, watching the Obama-hating right twist itself into pretzels to attack a President of the United States for following a Bush Agreement and ending a war. The Republican party has become a ridiculous parody of its most crazy base members.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 10-21-2011 at 04:35 PM.
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10-21-2011, 04:27 PM
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see, wars are bad. unless a democrat is for them, then they're good.
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10-21-2011, 04:31 PM
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We should not have pulled out of Iraq and moved into Afghanistan where the terrorists actually were? We should not have gone and tried to get bin Laden? When the Libyan resistance asked the US for help, we should not have gone to NATO for them, and gotten British and French troops to help them, instead of us, while we provided missles and drones and kept our troops out of it? Just trying to figure out your position.
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10-21-2011, 04:45 PM
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as i've said before, we should never have gone into iraq. thus, those troops would never have been out of use in afganistan. as for that country, as i've posted before, more than once...there are three things said to be required to fight a proper war. one of those three requirements in the ability to WIN. can we? history would say no, especially considering the pc way in which we try to wage war these days. you can't fight a 'civilized' war. if you're going to do it, for gods sake, do it right. not half assed, namby pamby, don't step on any toes. it's called war for a reason. as for libya, if it was a 'war' (which i thought it was never supposed to be, so i'm not sure why you included it)...all i've asked about libya is why? yet to see an answer. obama, who always asked for transparency in the past, has been anything but in this regard. hell, even congress asked- he didn't answer them either. after 9-11, we were sold a bill of goods, by bush, by congress-the dems all were in lock step with the vote as well, as they didn't want to lose re-election by being portrayed as being 'soft'. they said 9-11 wasn't an act of war, which forced insurers to pay off (read your policies folks, you don't get covered if a loss is due to act of war) BUT it then became a war on terror. gotta love how govt gets to have cake and eat it too. we didn't get osama bin laden because of the war in afganistan, we got him thru cia and other forms of spying and interrogation. the trillions spent and lives lost didn't do crap for getting him. i'm pretty sure we'd have gotten him without all the rest of it. and now, the big question... when will we get out of afganistan? who the hell knows. half the military spending in the world, and can't win in a place where the other side uses donkeys for transport.
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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10-21-2011, 04:26 PM
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well, they're idiots too. but then, if you think they are wrong for saying we should stay, how can you defend obama for trying to do the same?? and yeah, he tried. and tried. yeah, they're effed, because we're all effed i suppose.
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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10-21-2011, 04:30 PM
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My personal opinion is that all the troops should have been gone years ago. I am not "defending" Obama for anything, I am pointing out the facts:Obama got 40,000 combat troops out a year before scheduled by Bush agreement the Iraqi's asked us to leave 4,000-5,000 troops as trainers Obama tried to work with the Iraqi's on that Iraqi's wouldn't protect Americans Obama said no those 4,00-5,000 trainers will not be there. Geesh, how in the hell is the above, "Obama and his administration trying to stay in Iraq" ???? With no combat troops?
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10-21-2011, 04:37 PM
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like i said above, i'm glad they're all leaving. however, i think it's disingenuous of obama to put this as a big deal by him and his team, when in fact he was trying NOT to keep that promise. but hey, obviously obama and co don't see it that way. more power to him and his fans.
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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10-21-2011, 04:42 PM
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Yeah, screw the President for that! Except, the entire Republican party is today attacking him for saying, "no", and pulling those last 4,000-5,000 out. Good god. You're dinking the President who did exactly what you wanted, and not mad at the Republican party taking the opposite view and wanting to keep the troops there? Quote:
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