NYRA Knockers TAKE THIS!!!

Originally Posted by Revolution

Belmont and Aqueduct are ghost towns. NYRA has done an absolutely miserable job marketing the two tracks with their stupid commercials about horse names. They have no concerts there, nothing. It is a complete joke.

I remember seeing horses like Seattle Slew and Affirmed at Belmont and Aqueduct, but we heard concerts, too! It was another time and IT AIN'T COMIN' BACK.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

I remember seeing horses like Seattle Slew and Affirmed at Belmont and Aqueduct, but we heard concerts, too! It was another time and IT AIN'T COMIN' BACK.

They are ghost towns. Without question. However, in NY, and with NYRA, there is no longer a question of how to make it better. Today it is a question of how to survive. They cannot start addressing these things until there is massive and drastic overhaul of state legislation (in addition to the business model).

However, personally, unless they turn a deaf ear and neglect to see the reality -- I believe it can come back. Perhaps I am being naive. However, I do remember years ago Barry Schwartz going up to Woodbine (I believe he visited other tracks with VLT's, racinos, etc. as well). I was talking with him once about it and I remember him talking about when he came back he spoke of the facility and the business model. He had a very positive reaction and attitude -- he liked it. Maybe I am wrong but that's the way I remember it and that is my interpretation. He might have even gone as far as saying something along the lines of "that's what we should have" or "we should build it that way" (I don't remember).

Anyway -- this is NY baby!!! The greatest place in the world!!! You want hot dogs -- you go to Nathan's in CI ! You want pastrami, head over to Katz's or the Carnegie Deli (I love The Stage as well, LOL). You want it, you got it and the best of it -- right here . . . The greatest city in the world.

AND . . . if you want racing baby -- well it should be that NY RACING IS WHERE IT'S AT!!! Don't count it out just yet. Some of us might think that it might be on life support . . . but it ain't dead yet. LOL.

Eric

Originally Posted by ELA

They are ghost towns. Without question. However, in NY, and with NYRA, there is no longer a question of how to make it better. Today it is a question of how to survive. They cannot start addressing these things until there is massive and drastic overhaul of state legislation (in addition to the business model).

However, personally, unless they turn a deaf ear and neglect to see the reality -- I believe it can come back. Perhaps I am being naive. However, I do remember years ago Barry Schwartz going up to Woodbine (I believe he visited other tracks with VLT's, racinos, etc. as well). I was talking with him once about it and I remember him talking about when he came back he spoke of the facility and the business model. He had a very positive reaction and attitude -- he liked it. Maybe I am wrong but that's the way I remember it and that is my interpretation. He might have even gone as far as saying something along the lines of "that's what we should have" or "we should build it that way" (I don't remember).

Anyway -- this is NY baby!!! The greatest place in the world!!! You want hot dogs -- you go to Nathan's in CI ! You want pastrami, head over to Katz's or the Carnegie Deli (I love The Stage as well, LOL). You want it, you got it and the best of it -- right here . . . The greatest city in the world.

AND . . . if you want racing baby -- well it should be that NY RACING IS WHERE IT'S AT!!! Don't count it out just yet. Some of us might think that it might be on life support . . . but it ain't dead yet. LOL.

Eric

I live in Northern NJ, in the boondocks. I have lived my entire life in the NY Metropolitan Area and I love it. I consider NYC to be the greatest city in the world, so I hope you are right about NY racing. I have so many fond memories and I would like to have some more. Do you know why NYRA has no race named for Seattle Slew? That is my biggest knock on them.

If you people think New York is the greatest city in the world then you havent traveled the world. I like New York and it is BY FAR the greatest city in the US and prob in the top greatest cities in the world, but I wouldn't put it at number 1. That distinction would go to Hong Kong.

[slotdirt]

The Stones or somebody of that ilk just had a concert a Pimlico a few months back.

[slotdirt]

Sorry, wasn't the Stones, was the Who and Gnarls Barkley and a couple of other bands. All at Pimlico.

The Stones were at Churchill a couple of months ago.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

I live in Northern NJ, in the boondocks. I have lived my entire life in the NY Metropolitan Area and I love it. I consider NYC to be the greatest city in the world, so I hope you are right about NY racing. I have so many fond memories and I would like to have some more. Do you know why NYRA has no race named for Seattle Slew? That is my biggest knock on them.

I too live in Northern NJ -- just recently moving from the "city" to the suburbs. I joke that I am further away from everything I do and everyplace I go (LOL) -- my office, every racetrack except Saratoga, Continental Arena where the NJ Devils play, NYC, etc.

As far as why no race named after Seattle Slew, I would say ask Andy or call PJ Campo directly and ask him.

Eric

Originally Posted by ELA

I too live in Northern NJ -- just recently moving from the "city" to the suburbs. I joke that I am further away from everything I do and everyplace I go (LOL) -- my office, every racetrack except Saratoga, Continental Arena where the NJ Devils play, NYC, etc.

As far as why no race named after Seattle Slew, I would say ask Andy or call PJ Campo directly and ask him.

Eric

Eric, thanks for the information. I don't wish to seem uninformed, but who is Andy? I live in Sussex County; it's so great. We are just about 65 miles from Manhattan.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

Eric, thanks for the information. I don't wish to seem uninformed, but who is Andy? I live in Sussex County; it's so great. We are just about 65 miles from Manhattan.

I lived in Fort Lee for the last 20 years, overlooking the NYC skyline. I always said it is the greatest view in the world. Easy shot to Belmont, NYC, the Meadowlands, etc. Incredible location.

The Andy I was referring to is Andy Serling (his handle here is "blackthroatedwind").

Eric

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by ELA

I too live in Northern NJ -- just recently moving from the "city" to the suburbs. I joke that I am further away from everything I do and everyplace I go (LOL) -- my office, every racetrack except Saratoga, Continental Arena where the NJ Devils play, NYC, etc.

As far as why no race named after Seattle Slew, I would say ask Andy or call PJ Campo directly and ask him.

Eric

Eric,
I'm also from northern NJ...Teaneck.
It's been awhile since I've been to Meadowlands, as I now live upstate NY.
Much closer to Toga.
Thanks for your insights. They make a lot of sense to me.
Sumitas also has some good ones.
Horse racing won't die. We're just going through some "adjustments".
DTS

[randallscott35]

Warms my heart to see so many Jersey folks.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Warms my heart to see so many Jersey folks.

Randall,
I pretty much like Jersey folks.
Only time they don't "warm my heart" is when I have to deal with some of their driving patterns on these Catskill roads.
I wish they would slow down enough to take a look at the beautiful mountains. What's the hurry on a weekend in the woods?
I know...it takes a little over two hours to get away from the hustle and about two weeks to calm down enough to appreciate it.
DTS

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Eric,
I'm also from northern NJ...Teaneck.
It's been awhile since I've been to Meadowlands, as I now live upstate NY.
Much closer to Toga.
Thanks for your insights. They make a lot of sense to me.
Sumitas also has some good ones.
Horse racing won't die. We're just going through some "adjustments".
DTS

My office is right around the corner from Teaneck in Paramus. I spend a lot of time around the area and now it well. I was out at Glenpointe yesterday morning for a meeting. Very nice town.

Eric