Lawyer Ron, his works

[paisjpq]

Mike can you post his numbers...he's not on my list. I'm no fan of LR but if he's 'learning' then he deserves a look.

[Pointg5]

Is that a cattle dog in your avatar?

[Danzig]

looks like a corgi to me

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

looks like a corgi to me

I think you are right...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I think you are right...

very nice, very cute dogs. hard workers. hard to believe with those short legs that they are working dogs, and love to be kept busy.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

very nice, very cute dogs. hard workers. hard to believe with those short legs that they are working dogs, and love to be kept busy.

They like to bark a lot too. A friend of mine is a breeder.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

They like to bark a lot too. A friend of mine is a breeder.

They are one of my favorite dogs, I had a Corgie for 14 years. I swear she saved me from a serious accident, I was blanketing a 3 year old stallion and unexpectedly he fired and kicked me square on the knee, I went down and could not bend my leg, than the colt whirled around and charged me, my little Corgie was outside the stall and charged in grabbing at his face, she actually tore the colts upper lip pretty badly but the distraction enabled me to crawl under the stall guard, she was such a great dog, we called her the Warden because if horses banged their stall doors she would run up and bite at them! LOL!!! I miss her so much to this day and haven't been able to bring myself to get another one....... yet.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Is that a cattle dog in your avatar?

pembroke wesh corgi...Mrs. P...or paisley...whichever she will come to...and she's very busy...and 'talkative'

Originally Posted by paisjpq

pembroke wesh corgi...Mrs. P...or paisley...whichever she will come to...and she's very busy...and 'talkative'

Thats an AWESOME pic of the dog!!! Looks like something really has its attention. What did you do, show the dog the works since Pletcher had taken over the horse?

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats an AWESOME pic of the dog!!! Looks like something really has its attention. What did you do, show the dog the works since Pletcher had taken over the horse?

lol


That was the dog's reaction when she said she wasn't a fan of Lawyer Ron...

Originally Posted by Pointg5

lol


That was the dog's reaction when she said she wasn't a fan of Lawyer Ron...

Actually maybe that was the dog's reaction when he read the bleeding heart thread. I think he had 10 doggy treats riding on the Super Derby and man was he ever pissed when the horse was rank and got caught!

Hey Oracle darling, why don't you wait until the horse runs a race before you start gloating? How are you so sure those slower works aren't because there's something wrong with the horse?? And what makes you so certain Pletcher isn't slowing that horse down artificially?? I have seen trainers do that to take the edge off of them in the AM to "teach" them to relax.

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Mike can you post his numbers...he's not on my list. I'm no fan of LR but if he's 'learning' then he deserves a look.

I think hes learning, and also being taught. The lack of respect Todd gets as a conditioner even after all he's done is incredible to me.

Pre Pletcher works:
August 19th CD 5f 59:1 1/20
September 9th CD 6f 1:11 1/1
September 16th CD 5f 59:3 1/34

Post Pletcher works:
October 9th Bel 4f 48 4/41
October 16th Bel 5f 1:01:4 6/11
October 22nd Bel 5f 1:01:1 11/79

You make the call.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I think hes learning, and also being taught. The lack of respect Todd gets as a conditioner even after all he's done is incredible to me.

Pre Pletcher works:
August 19th CD 5f 59:1 1/20
September 9th CD 6f 1:11 1/1
September 16th CD 5f 59:3 1/34

Post Pletcher works:
October 9th Bel 4f 48 4/41
October 16th Bel 5f 1:01:4 6/11
October 22nd Bel 5f 1:01:1 11/79

You make the call.

no disrespect to Todd...I just don't really like the horse. Thanks for the #'s looks like he's makin' some changes...I hope they don't translate to BC day b'cause I'm still not using him

Originally Posted by paisjpq

no disrespect to Todd...I just don't really like the horse. Thanks for the #'s looks like he's makin' some changes...I hope they don't translate to BC day b'cause I'm still not using him

Thats fine but the bleeding hearts screaming that the owner was wrong to change things up with a rank horse who wasn't finishing really should examine the ATTEMPT that the new guys is making and consider if their remarks were ill advised.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats fine but the bleeding hearts screaming that the owner was wrong to change things up with a rank horse who wasn't finishing really should examine the ATTEMPT that the new guys is making and consider if their remarks were ill advised.

well of course they were ill advised. who here would actually choose holthus over pletcher if they had to choose???

Originally Posted by Danzig188

well of course they were ill advised. who here would actually choose holthus over pletcher if they had to choose???

Holthus is a great trainer Zieg, he really is. Betting him at Oaklawn is like an ATM machine. Its just that it was pretty obvious that an attempt to control his rankness had to be made, and he wasn't doing it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Holthus is a great trainer Zieg, he really is. Betting him at Oaklawn is like an ATM machine. Its just that it was pretty obvious that an attempt to control his rankness had to be made, and he wasn't doing it.

holthus is a good trainer...but again, who would choose him over pletcher? haven't seen anyone pipe up yet and say they would.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I think hes learning, and also being taught. The lack of respect Todd gets as a conditioner even after all he's done is incredible to me.

Pre Pletcher works:
August 19th CD 5f 59:1 1/20
September 9th CD 6f 1:11 1/1
September 16th CD 5f 59:3 1/34

Post Pletcher works:
October 9th Bel 4f 48 4/41
October 16th Bel 5f 1:01:4 6/11
October 22nd Bel 5f 1:01:1 11/79

You make the call.

Well if he can relax and rate in his races I'll be impressed, horses are creatures of habit and this horse in a race will get the juices flowing again, in the mornings it's a LOT easier to get them to slow down when they're alone and they concentrate on you. I don't care if he has him doing the Texas Twostep and whistlin Dixie in the morning, it's a different scenario in the actual race. Intercontinental was not NEARLY the head case she was in the mornings as she was in her races.