herman cain

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The fact that hate and abuse are not perfectly interchangable. That and the fact I consider abuse a worse crime than hate. That's all. Goes back to Riot's idiotic followup.

Dell, again it helps when you actually read what I post before becoming critical of same. One last time, I never said hate and abuse are interchangeable, I said abuse comes from hate, is a subset of same, that they are interconnected with hate being the emotion that leads to abuse/violence against others. It is my position that when a person hates, they can then dehumanize and feel justified in committing violence. If you love and respect someone, you will not abuse or otherwise harm them.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Dell, again it helps when you actually read what I post before becoming critical of same. One last time, I never said hate and abuse are interchangeable, I said abuse comes from hate, is a subset of same, that they are interconnected with hate being the emotion that leads to abuse/violence against others. It is my position that when a person hates, they can then dehumanize and feel justified in committing violence. If you love and respect someone, you will not abuse or otherwise harm them.

Abuse without hate as in the case of a father abusing his daughter is what I was talking about. Unless the majority of muslims/hindus hate their daughters?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Abuse without hate as in the case of a father abusing his daughter is what I was talking about. Unless the majority of muslims/hindus hate their daughters?

And my position is there can be no abuse without hate....these men may profess to love their daughters, even believe it themselves, but when faced with the lives of their daughters vs their "honor" they choose violence against the one they profess to love...shows that they have dehumanized their daughter and consider her less than their precious "honor" and they hate her for daring to go against same.