WI Union-busting provisions added in budget committee

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

It's a difficult task on the blame game. The fault is to be leveled at many people, unions included, but they are far, far from the only one's involved. Yes, you blame the kids too. If someone commits a murder, the shooter is to blame. What happened in his life to get him to the point where they commit a murder is irrelevant to some extent. You have to punish the shooter though many others were to "blame" or in some way "responsible" for his state. Same with kids in school. If they have virtually zero desire to learn, some of the blame is on them without question. No?? Education is a tough game...very, very tough in some areas of the country. Determining why every single kid who has no desire whatsoever to learn anything in the public school system is an impossible task that cannot and will not ever be solved.

I find the conservative attack on unions distasteful to the extreme. Yes, there are bad elements to them without question and that is not even a debatable point. That is human beings in a nutshell. Why would unions be exempt from distasteful human beings?? They aren't. But the whole gist of the attack on unions it is the desire of slave labor. that is all this is about. Dirt cheap labor is the goal and corporations have it and they ain't gettin it in America. corporations are doing fantastic without having to hire American workers. The initial goal of labor unions were very, very good and they did a lot, a lot of good. They were a prominent player in the explosion of the middle class in AMerica. It's now over. No one will work for slave wages in this country but they do in many other countries in the world. why in hell would steve jobs make an i-phone in this country when he doesn't have too?

The ultimate goal of destroying all unions that exist is the goal for a return to cheaper labor here. that is all it is. And if you really think the goal of destroying teacher unions is to reward "great" teachers you live in an alternate universe. No, it's cheap labor is all it is. You lose the "lavish benefits", and lose all collective bargaining, you get cheaper labor. And everyone knows that is all this is about but won't really admit it. They're afraid to do that. That is all it is about. For a group of politicians all over the country to promote the "fact" that public school teachers are living extravagent, easy, problem free lives simply for the purpose of pitting the rubes against each other is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever witnessed in my life. It's beyond sick.

The deficit theater is another high level comedy act that is better than Monty Python in it's level of comedy. The schtick being played out by Ds and Rs is masterful. They are perfectly on board with each other and playing all of us for fools and suceeding with aplomb. That people think there is one iota of difference in them is silly. That people think elections in this country have any meaning whatsoever is more comedy. The game is nearly over now. It's ok, medicare over, social security over, unions over, 7 wars at once....BAM--you-betcha!! Sarah Palin, Barrack Obama, Mitt Romney, John McCain. We would see zero difference whatsoever in any of them. zero. Geithner, Bernake--BAM--you betcha!! Austerity bitches, austerity!

So the fact that teachers unions have strangled the life out of the education system in this country is due to human nature?

I wish you would have attempted a retort of the ridiculous waste of money caused by the unions for no good purpose other than self preservation and political gain instead of a rambling diatribe that shows great potential to have been aided by scotch.

The saddest thing is when people rush to defend the teachers unions is they do so in spite of the unions lack of help for those that they should be helping, the dedicated teachers and students.