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Old 06-07-2011, 04:51 PM
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She did get antibiotics and no cause was ever established as I imagine its almost impossible to find one.
Was she ever able to get back in work with you?

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I find it very strange that you can make these definitive statements about Mo's condition unless you yourself is the one treating the horse.

You do seem like someone who does not lack in confidence.
My opinions from a professional medical point of view, is that the public statements are entirely consistent with the normal and usual medical courses of diagnosis and treatment for both horses regarding the diseases they've stated. There is nothing "fishy" or inconsistent in the least about any of the claims or treatments made.

Mine is obviously not a popular opinion.

And no, I do not lack in confidence regarding my knowledge of the diagnosis, treatment and outcomes of these diseases. I do it professionally all day long. You have your opinion based upon your personal experience with your mare, I have mine based upon my personal professional experience and knowledge of the veterinarians involved.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:57 PM
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And no, I do not lack in confidence regarding my knowledge of the diagnosis, treatment and outcomes of these diseases. I do it professionally all day long.

Where are you currently employed?
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:05 PM
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Where are you currently employed?
Not as a public handicapper for NYRA.

Sorry, Andy. No apology to the DeeTee regulars for daring to not subscribe to the predominant conspiracy theories about Uncle Mo and Pletcher. Nor for using my professional knowledge and experience as a veterinarian to influence my thinking or assessment, nor for saying my opinion publicly on Derby Trail.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:21 PM
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Not as a public handicapper for NYRA.

Sorry, Andy. No apology to the DeeTee regulars for daring to not subscribe to the predominant conspiracy theories about Uncle Mo and Pletcher. Nor for using my professional knowledge and experience as a veterinarian to influence my thinking or assessment, nor for saying my opinion publicly on Derby Trail.
That's quite a dodge.

I asked a simple question. I will try again....where are you working? Since you said you make these kinds of diagnoses daily, this is a fair question. What thoroughbreds are you currently diagnosing daily?

I have no conspiracy theories on this subject and have stated none here. I do find your arrogant know-it-all attitude amusing. But, that doesn't mean I have some theory on Uncle Mo. I don't, nor have I given one, or even hinted at it.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:22 PM
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That's quite a dodge.

I asked a simple question. I will try again....where are you working? Since you said you make these kinds of diagnoses daily, this is a fair question. What thoroughbreds are you currently diagnosing daily?

I have no conspiracy theories on this subject and have stated none here. I do find your arrogant know-it-all attitude amusing. But, that doesn't mean I have some theory on Uncle Mo. I don't, nor have I given one, or even hinted at it.

She works for Mike Repole.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:31 PM
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That's quite a dodge.
It's not a dodge. Your request to put my CV on an internet list is laughable and absurd.

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I do find your arrogant know-it-all attitude amusing.
Good for you! I find your arrogance quite amusing, too Thus we are both "amused"
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:36 PM
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It's not a dodge. Your request to put my CV on an internet list is laughable and absurd.



Good for you! I find your arrogance quite amusing, too Thus we are both "amused"
I think everyone here just got the answer.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:40 PM
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I think everyone here just got the answer.
Yes. I'll happily let my posted opinions "give the answer" as to my knowledge of the subject at hand.

Lets sum this sad thread up:

Someone asked about Uncle Mo's cholangiohepatitis.

Many opinions were given. Most think that everyone involved is lying, the horse is through and will never race again, etc. (and, of course, the undercurrent unstated assessments of the trainer and what he does with horses in his barn, that everyone - even the local vets in Lexington - are aware of)

My opinion disagreed with the majority and the regulars. A group attack ensued, with Mawhip and blackthroatedwind ending by trying to go after my professional bonafides publicly in order to discredit me and my opinion.

Yeah, that pretty well sums it up.

And most importantly, Uncle Mo dares to get back to training.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:53 PM
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I think everyone here just got the answer.
Really? What answer is that? That Riot is intelligent enough not to play into such an obvious ploy?
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:58 PM
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Was she ever able to get back in work with you?



My opinions from a professional medical point of view, is that the public statements are entirely consistent with the normal and usual medical courses of diagnosis and treatment for both horses regarding the diseases they've stated. There is nothing "fishy" or inconsistent in the least about any of the claims or treatments made.

Mine is obviously not a popular opinion.

And no, I do not lack in confidence regarding my knowledge of the diagnosis, treatment and outcomes of these diseases. I do it professionally all day long. You have your opinion based upon your personal experience with your mare, I have mine based upon my personal professional experience and knowledge of the veterinarians involved.
Of course there is something fishy with the statements they made. If you believe for one second Uncle Mo is not on any medications, then you should have your veterninary licence revoked immediately.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:00 PM
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Of course there is something fishy with the statements they made. If you believe for one second Uncle Mo is not on any medications, then you should have your veterninary licence revoked immediately.
Of course, you know best that Dr. Byars is lying publicly.

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Old 06-07-2011, 05:14 PM
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Of course, you know best that Dr. Byars is lying publicly.

He said Uncle Mo is not on medications. So did Elliot Walden. They both lied or should I say didn't tell the truth. Why, I have no idea. But if they would lie about that then we can't really believe a word they say about anything related the condition of poor Uncle Mo. Can we??
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