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Old 05-13-2011, 03:27 AM
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Zayat will fly to Louisville to watch Nehro work Monday morning and then decide whether to ship to Baltimore.

Oy vey. Hey Ahmed, here's a wacky, nutty idea... How about you leave that up to Asmussen and Blasi?
There's no need to be the Jerry Jones of horse racing, and sometimes I think it's hard to tell which owner's gonna win the Eclipse for Outstanding Trainer in Their Own Mind. If you don't trust your trainer to do the job you want, get a different trainer. I've heard that Barclay Tagg would sooner tell an owner to go jump than put up with that behavior for very long. I think it was some book or article on Funny Cide where he admitted to telling some owner that they'd be better off using a different trainer.

Well, it could be worse. Zayat could be micromanaging Asmussen & Blasi over a horse named Z Nehro, expressing concern about Pimlico's turns vs. Churchill's. (I haven't heard anybody say Pim's turns are tighter yet. It doesn't feel like Preakness time til someone starts swearing up and down that they are.)

I can understand if it's really just an effort to feel useful rather than acting as a silent partner of sorts. The less you're around the horse, the less fun you might feel you're having. Show up, give the horse a snack and pat on the neck (unless your horse is Midnight Interlude, in which case stay a safe distance away), talk to the trainer in person after the work instead of on the phone, then go home. Maybe throw in some thoughts on types of races you'd like to run in so the trainer knows you're more interested in as far as your overall operation's concerned, but you're paying the trainer to condition and point to races, so let them do it. Ask for options where you make the final call if you want, but let them pick the options.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:13 AM
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There's no need to be the Jerry Jones of horse racing, and sometimes I think it's hard to tell which owner's gonna win the Eclipse for Outstanding Trainer in Their Own Mind. If you don't trust your trainer to do the job you want, get a different trainer. I've heard that Barclay Tagg would sooner tell an owner to go jump than put up with that behavior for very long. I think it was some book or article on Funny Cide where he admitted to telling some owner that they'd be better off using a different trainer.

Well, it could be worse. Zayat could be micromanaging Asmussen & Blasi over a horse named Z Nehro, expressing concern about Pimlico's turns vs. Churchill's. (I haven't heard anybody say Pim's turns are tighter yet. It doesn't feel like Preakness time til someone starts swearing up and down that they are.)

I can understand if it's really just an effort to feel useful rather than acting as a silent partner of sorts. The less you're around the horse, the less fun you might feel you're having. Show up, give the horse a snack and pat on the neck (unless your horse is Midnight Interlude, in which case stay a safe distance away), talk to the trainer in person after the work instead of on the phone, then go home. Maybe throw in some thoughts on types of races you'd like to run in so the trainer knows you're more interested in as far as your overall operation's concerned, but you're paying the trainer to condition and point to races, so let them do it. Ask for options where you make the final call if you want, but let them pick the options.
When you are the one signing the checks, you do whatever f*ck you want...
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:46 AM
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When you are the one signing the checks, you do whatever f*ck you want...
That worked out well with JP's Gusto
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:53 AM
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That worked out well with JP's Gusto
I didn't say it works... but if the guy who is writing the checks doesn't feel like he is making the calls, you wont be working for him for very long. Regardless of the industry..
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:04 PM
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Concealed Identity will run in the $100,000 James W. Murphy Stakes (Race 5) if not entered in the Preakness.
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:03 PM
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According to HRTV Santiva will not run in the Preakness.
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Old 05-14-2011, 06:13 PM
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According to HRTV Santiva will not run in the Preakness.
Damn, I like Sativa too.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:47 AM
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When you are the one signing the checks, you do whatever f*ck you want...
Another fine example of a litmus test poster.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:23 PM
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I preferred Merlinsky's stance.
It's just a knee-jerk reaction of his after blindly defending the Mosses all of last year.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:34 PM
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It's just a knee-jerk reaction of his after blindly defending the Mosses all of last year.
To whom are you referring?
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:12 AM
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To whom are you referring?
Clearly not you, as you're not the one Cardus quoted.
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A few days late, but I wasn't sure anybody had posted this. Crist on the Derby pace:

http://www.drf.com/news/hard-make-se...cky-derby-pace
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:44 AM
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Just read about Mucho Macho Man's work this morning. I've been wanting to play against, but the DRF article painted a pretty nice picture of the effort. Did anybody happen to catch his spin at Belmont this a.m.?
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:45 AM
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Just read about Mucho Macho Man's work this morning. I've been wanting to play against, but the DRF article painted a pretty nice picture of the effort. Did anybody happen to catch his spin at Belmont this a.m.?
Why play against? He is the most likely winner of the Preakness.
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