10:30pm Sunday Night President's Having a Press Conference?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Interesting read

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn....s-whereabouts/

Yeah, real interesting.

The Pakistanis knew all right. The former Prime Minister of Pakistan publicly stated, on TV, that Bin Laden was already dead, back in 2007. David Frost was the interviewer.

She herself was killed a month later.

I'm sure everyone here will gladly choose to ignore this inescapable fact and continue the thoughtless cheerleading.

Go America, we killed a dead person!! YAY!!!

[declansharbor]

[dellinger63]

In a statement released today, Pakistan said it was deeply concerned over what it said was an “unauthorized” American raid that killed bin Laden. The government statement said the raid should not serve as a precedent for future US actions in the country.

“Neither any base nor facility inside Pakistan was used by the US forces, nor the Pakistan Army provided any operational or logistic assistance to these operations conducted by the U.S. forces,” the ministry said. “This event of unauthorized unilateral action cannot be taken as a rule."

We kill the world's most wanted man in their country and this is their thanks? Only thing worse than an enemy is an enemy that pretends to be your friend.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...#ixzz1LJ4ep0Om

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, real interesting.

The Pakistanis knew all right. The former Prime Minister of Pakistan publicly stated, on TV, that Bin Laden was already dead, back in 2007. David Frost was the interviewer.

She herself was killed a month later.

I'm sure everyone here will gladly choose to ignore this inescapable fact and continue the thoughtless cheerleading.

Go America, we killed a dead person!! YAY!!!

So we're all idiots for thinking he was recently killed.....but you're smart for believing this because she was killed a month after saying it? What evidence do you have other than her brief statement in an interview that was never followed up?

I guess all of the attepts on her life prior to that were just a coincidence. Like when she said in September (2 months before she said that to Frost and 3 months before her death) that she knew her life was in danger. She survived an attempt on her life a month later.

Feel free to ignore that inescapable fact and put your Uncle Mo tinfoil hat on.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So we're all idiots for thinking he was recently killed.....but you're smart for believing this because she was killed a month after saying it? What evidence do you have other than her brief statement in an interview that was never followed up?

I guess all of the attepts on her life prior to that were just a coincidence. Like when she said in September (2 months before she said that to Frost and 3 months before her death) that she knew her life was in danger. She survived an attempt on her life a month later.

Feel free to ignore that inescapable fact and put your Uncle Mo tinfoil hat on.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Is that the best you can do? If you cannot dispute what is presented with facts, mock it!!!

It's much easier to belittle an idea that goes against your belief than it is to examine the actual facts, isn't it?

Or, in your case, it's easier to not dispute the absolute lack of evidence that we've all been presented.

What's next? Are you going to tell me the Federal Income Tax is actually legal?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Is that the best you can do? If you cannot dispute what is presented with facts, mock it!!!

It's much easier to belittle an idea that goes against your belief than it is to examine the actual facts, isn't it?

Or, in your case, it's easier to not dispute the absolute lack of evidence that we've all been presented.

What's next? Are you going to tell me the Federal Income Tax is actually legal?

I'd be equally as interested in trying to seriously join a conversation where you condescendingly told everyone that it's pretty much common knowledge that R Heat Lightning is a unicorn, and that there's tons of evidence that is out there (while not showing us any of it), and that she was withdrawn from the Oaks because it was found out (which is a statement somewhere on par with your specious Bhutto statement).

There will be evidence. And my guess is very soon. So I'm hoping you enjoy the time up until then. And my next guess is that you'll still carry on with this line of argument, and you'll be DT's resident "Deather," because your distrust of the government will not allow you to accept any evidence that contradicts your wild theory.

Looking forward to it!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'd be equally as interested in trying to seriously join a conversation where you condescendingly told everyone that it's pretty much common knowledge that R Heat Lightning is a unicorn, and that there's tons of evidence that is out there (while not showing us any of it), and that she was withdrawn from the Oaks because it was found out (which is a statement somewhere on par with your specious Bhutto statement).

There will be evidence. And my guess is very soon. So I'm hoping you enjoy the time up until then. And my next guess is that you'll still carry on with this line of argument, and you'll be DT's resident "Deather," because your distrust of the government will not allow you to accept any evidence that contradicts your wild theory.

Looking forward to it!

I could have sworn all I said about R Heat Lightning was that she'd have no shot in the Derby, and maybe that she isn't as good as people think. But, okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Did I say a single thing about her being withdrawn from the Oaks, other than that I felt she was going to burn a lot of money? Somehow, you are crediting me with a statement I never made, that is on par with my Bhutto comment???

You are just making stuff up.

And it looks like you, among others, have a blind trust in the government that will not allow you to accept any evidence that contradicts the theory that he was just killed.

Have you even given this any honest consideration, or are you just dismissing what I say because the implications are ugly?

[Indian Charlie]

One other thing Hossy and Spence. If I were to provide said links, what would come of it?

You'd dismiss them just as easily as you dismiss the Bhutto interview, or better yet, just as easily as you accept the 'official' version of things.

Judging by the lack of an honest attempt to refute what I'm saying, I have no reason to post more evidence that counters your belief.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I could have sworn all I said about R Heat Lightning was that she'd have no shot in the Derby, and maybe that she isn't as good as people think. But, okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Did I say a single thing about her being withdrawn from the Oaks, other than that I felt she was going to burn a lot of money? Somehow, you are crediting me with a statement I never made, that is on par with my Bhutto comment???

You are just making stuff up.

And it looks like you, among others, have a blind trust in the government that will not allow you to accept any evidence that contradicts the theory that he was just killed.

Have you even given this any honest consideration, or are you just dismissing what I say because the implications are ugly?

Of course I'm making stuff up. I never said that you said any of that about R Heat Lightning. Point was, it would be a ridiculous conversation to try to have seriously, so I came up with a wild idea that would be nearly impossible to believe. It would be the same thing. Someone claiming something wild is "common knowledge," and stating that there is tons of evidence (while providing none) to back up a theory that is clearly more far-fetched than the official version of events.

R Heat Lightning is a unicorn vs. she has a bad knee = Common knowledge that Osama has been dead for years vs. he was killed this weekend.

I'm dismissing what you say because you're just saying it, saying it's common knowledge, saying there's evidence, like anyone who doesn't see how simple that is to understand is some kind of fool. While there is not (yet) evidence of Osama being killed this weekend, there will be.

I just find it more than a little ridiculous that you're acting as though believing this official version of (unfounded, taking someone's word for it for the time being) events is somehow stupid, or the result of everyone just being too f*cking dumb to consider it "because the implications are ugly," when they should totes just be believing your (unfounded, taking someone's word for it for the time being -- er, "time being = years" since you claimed this happened years ago, and nobody's Scooby-Doo'ed to the bottom of it yet, miraculously enough!) version of events.

Yes, one of those sounds completely crazy, for peon idiots who have blind faith in their government, and one of those sounds completely reasonable and rational.

You win, I guess.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Have you even given this any honest consideration, or are you just dismissing what I say because the implications are ugly?

Their dismissing it, because they know you're a lune, and your an apologist for a great deal of the planet's Islamic thuggery. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you are not happy that the biggest enemy of this Gov't just got owned solely by members of this Gov't. You're not alone, I've heard that

1)"he was dead already,"

2) that "he isn't dead, "

3) "Quadaffi got bombed, and we wanted the focus off that."

4) "It's close to 10 years since 9/11"

When people don't like something, they do these things. It's shifting, distracting, distorting etc. Your effort is a version of #1. We don't have to give you any more evidence than the photos of him being dead. If you want to prove he was in deep freeze for 2 years, do it. It's on you (not us.) Your version is the one that needs a lot more evidence(not the version we've heard so far.) So far, a large part of your "evidence" is simply stating that there is not enough evidence for the version you don't like. This is not evidence supporting your version. This is simply your chosen way of manipulating a situation. You've always done these things.... Won't stop.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So we're all idiots for thinking he was recently killed.....but you're smart for believing this because she was killed a month after saying it? What evidence do you have other than her brief statement in an interview that was never followed up?

I guess all of the attepts on her life prior to that were just a coincidence. Like when she said in September (2 months before she said that to Frost and 3 months before her death) that she knew her life was in danger. She survived an attempt on her life a month later.

Feel free to ignore that inescapable fact and put your Uncle Mo tinfoil hat on.

I just threw in the assassination to see if I got any reactions, but also to point out that she never really got much of a chance to explain that casual remark about OBL. However, your placing the tinfoil hat label on me changes nothing about the reality of this situation.

And no, I never called any of you idiots. Though, clearly that presence is here.

As for me providing more evidence. Why don't you provide evidence that he was just killed? Oh yeah, you cannot. All you can go on is the honest word from our government. Our government, the first and only government in human history that is totally honest and benevolent.

On the flip side, there is plenty of evidence supporting the idea that OBL has been dead for years. When you show me one credible shred of evidence, I'll supply you with a second one.

Oh yeah, they buried the body at sea without showing it to anyone. I guess you will be unable to provide that evidence.

I'm going to put my tinfoil hat back on (again, I never said she was killed to keep silent). I suggest you keep your head buried safely in the sand so that you don't have to do something uncomfortable, like examining this situation with a critical eye that is open to fact, not blind emotion.

[dellinger63]

They have authenticated audio tape of bin Laden taking credit for the Detroit bombing, naming the bomber. That happened around Christmas of 2009.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

They have authenticated audio tape of bin Laden taking credit for the Detroit bombing, naming the bomber. That happened around Christmas of 2009.

Who is "They"?

Do you know how easy it is to fake audio?

Is that really the best evidence out there that he was still alive in 2009?

Is it really believable that OBL was holed up in a big complex, what, half a mile from a military base?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Is it really believable that OBL was holed up in a big complex, what, half a mile from a military base?

Yes because he was protected by the military. It was no big suprise he was found in Pakistan. Even Hillary said so while handing over a fat check last year.

[dellinger63]

wrong eye but still like it.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Yes because he was protected by the military. It was no big suprise he was found in Pakistan. Even Hillary said so while handing over a fat check last year.

Well, if Hillary said so, I take everything back.

[Dahoss]

Oh, you just threw it in for a reaction. Good one. We both know that's bullsh.it. You said she made the statement and was killed a month later. The implication is there.

You made the statement. You said he's been dead for years. Well, let's see the evidence. You said it isn't even disputable, remember? Put up, or shut up. If the evidence is so overwhelming, woudn't it be pretty easy to link it up and let us idiots in on the secret?

I'm not emotional at all. Just tired of your act. You make stupid comments and then pretend you are kidding. You aren't fooling anyone.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Oh, you just threw it in for a reaction. Good one. We both know that's bullsh.it. You said she made the statement and was killed a month later. The implication is there.

You made the statement. You said he's been dead for years. Well, let's see the evidence. You said it isn't even disputable, remember? Put up, or shut up. If the evidence is so overwhelming, woudn't it be pretty easy to link it up and let us idiots in on the secret?

I'm not emotional at all. Just tired of your act. You make stupid comments and then pretend you are kidding. You aren't fooling anyone.

There was no intended implication. I am familiar with her history and am fully aware that she knew she was on borrowed time. Hell, even if I'd never had heard of her, that much was clear just from watching the video. You cannot possibly be that stupid to think I missed that, could you?

I can provide you plenty of evidence. Instead of that though, I am asking you to provide me evidence that he was just killed. Why is there a complete lack of evidence? There is precedence for this situation!

I'd like to know why anything I said is stupid. I do kid around a lot, and maybe you often misread me, but hey, I'm not the one who's a ***** and copped out of the handicapping contest with PG1985, and then offered up a bunch of really lame excuses after the fact.

I'm glad I'm not fooling anyone, except for you.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

There was no intended implication. I am familiar with her history and am fully aware that she knew she was on borrowed time. Hell, even if I'd never had heard of her, that much was clear just from watching the video. You cannot possibly be that stupid to think I missed that, could you?

I can provide you plenty of evidence. Instead of that though, I am asking you to provide me evidence that he was just killed. Why is there a complete lack of evidence? There is precedence for this situation!

I'd like to know why anything I said is stupid. I do kid around a lot, and maybe you often misread me, but hey, I'm not the one who's a ***** and copped out of the handicapping contest with PG1985, and then offered up a bunch of really lame excuses after the fact.

I'm glad I'm not fooling anyone, except for you.

Seriously, all this conspiracy crap is way past old (not pointing these remarks at one specific person), first it was FDR having advanced knowledge of the Japanese attack on Pearl, then the second gunman on the grassy knoll, then the moon walk that took place in the south west somewhere, then 9-11 being known beforehand by Bush and actually done by the Jews, then Obama's place of birth, and now....OBL was killed by brave Navy Seals and his worthless carcass dumped into the ocean, it's only been a couple days, the government will produce the evidence they see fit, neither I or anyone else has to produce evidence...attempts by conspiracy nuts to put folks on the defensive by demanding "proof" has been tried for decades...you all are free to think what you want, and so is the vast majority of Americans!