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Old 04-26-2011, 04:15 PM
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So you're trying to say that after talking all morning they decided on their own not to use Borel after asking him to work him out? A guy who knows a thing or two about winning this race and won last year's race for Pletcher. Instead stick to Dominguez even though not necessarily his fault didnt exactly look impressive last out. I still think Borel turned them down or possibly Stay Thirsty might scratch if they think Uncle Mo is ready.
I am saying that Borel was never going to ride Stay Thirsty and it was certainly not his decision. Dominguez has the mount unless Uncle Mo does not start in which case Velazquez will likely get the mount. And while I have not read up on it, I will take a wild guess that if Borel worked Stay Thirsty instead of Dominguez it is probably because Borel is at Churchill this week and Dominguez is not. I think it is really funny that you think the choice was Borel's! Have to love the Botards!

Don't get me wrong, I want Borel in the race but not for the reason you do. I am salavating at the real possibility that any horse Borel rides will take the stupidest of the stupid money bet into the Derby.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:26 PM
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I am saying that Borel was never going to ride Stay Thirsty and it was certainly not his decision. Dominguez has the mount unless Uncle Mo does not start in which case Velazquez will likely get the mount. And while I have not read up on it, I will take a wild guess that if Borel worked Stay Thirsty instead of Dominguez it is probably because Borel is at Churchill this week and Dominguez is not. I think it is really funny that you think the choice was Borel's! Have to love the Botards!

Don't get me wrong, I want Borel in the race but not for the reason you do. I am salavating at the real possibility that any horse Borel rides will take the stupidest of the stupid money bet into the Derby.
"Love the Botards!" I want Borel in the race but not for the reason you do. Well that makes you the only one wanting him in the race. I really dont give a **** if he rides or flashes his winning smile as a commentator that day. That leaves you as the only Botard and I having no reason for him in the race. Sorry to break it to you.......you dont know everything. Pointless
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:34 PM
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Stay Thirsty has more of a chance to win the Derby than Master of Hounds. I'd love to see Borel on Master of Hounds.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:42 PM
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Stay Thirsty has more of a chance to win the Derby than Master of Hounds. I'd love to see Borel on Master of Hounds.
I took a wild stab in the first pool on Stay Thirsty. I would love to see him pull out some magic but right now I feel I'm better off feeding him my ticket. Pletcher has a meeting with Repole and doesnt take on the only rider to ever win the Derby for him who is available? Is Stay Thirsty that good that Dominguez begged not to take him off? Doubt it. Either Stay Thirsty didnt impress him during the work that he rather hope for another opening or Stay Thirsty is hanging around just to be a scratch some time before the Derby if Uncle Mo is ready to go.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:09 PM
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Doesn't the Wood winner flatter Stay thirtsy just enough to not be a total toss against this group? Have not heard anything that his last works were horrific.
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Old 04-26-2011, 06:42 PM
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Doesn't the Wood winner flatter Stay thirtsy just enough to not be a total toss against this group? Have not heard anything that his last works were horrific.
If u watched the gotham stakes, then you know the answer your question is no.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:10 PM
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I took a wild stab in the first pool on Stay Thirsty. I would love to see him pull out some magic but right now I feel I'm better off feeding him my ticket. Pletcher has a meeting with Repole and doesnt take on the only rider to ever win the Derby for him who is available? Is Stay Thirsty that good that Dominguez begged not to take him off? Doubt it. Either Stay Thirsty didnt impress him during the work that he rather hope for another opening or Stay Thirsty is hanging around just to be a scratch some time before the Derby if Uncle Mo is ready to go.
You are right, I don't know everything. But, I am pretty damn certain that the choice was Pletcher's and Repole's, not Borel's. The notion that Borel would opt off when he doesn't have another mount in the Derby is comical.

The answer to your question as to why Pletcher/Repole would choose Dominguez over Borel is that Dominguez is a better rider regardless of whether Borel has won Pletcher's only Derby.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:16 PM
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Oh good an opinion this time instead of bad comedy. Dominguez statistically might be better all around but those numbers might be different at Churchill. All of this moot we're not talking about who gets to ride Secretariat.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:18 PM
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Oh good an opinion this time instead of bad comedy. Dominguez statistically might be better all around but those numbers might be different at Churchill. All of this moot we're not talking about who gets to ride Secretariat.
Bad comedy? I'm not the one holding a future ticket on Stay Thirsty.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:49 PM
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I took a wild stab in the first pool on Stay Thirsty. I would love to see him pull out some magic but right now I feel I'm better off feeding him my ticket. Pletcher has a meeting with Repole and doesnt take on the only rider to ever win the Derby for him who is available? Is Stay Thirsty that good that Dominguez begged not to take him off? Doubt it. Either Stay Thirsty didnt impress him during the work that he rather hope for another opening or Stay Thirsty is hanging around just to be a scratch some time before the Derby if Uncle Mo is ready to go.
Borel worked him as a favor. I don't think Dominguez was ever not going to ride him.

It sucks, because with Borel on he would have been an even bigger underlay than he already is going to be. But, I'm with NTamm in hoping he rides Master of Hounds, because he's another that is going to be overbet and with Borel on he'll be an incredible underlay.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:49 PM
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On another board they are saying Borel will be on Anthonys Cross, for whatever it's worth.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:50 PM
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On another board they are saying Borel will be on Anthonys Cross, for whatever it's worth.
Probably means 15 points on his odds. Easy
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