UN Workers Beheaded

[Riot]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

That's pretty comical. American's aren't in danger because of this clown. They are in danger because they are Americans and many of bad guys are just blood thirsty radical animals that put no value on life.

What I said, was:

The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

Yes, I agree the Taliban is just blood thirsty radical animals with no value on life.

But yeah - when the Taliban uses the clown in Florida to incite violence against our troops in Afghanistan, yeah - that puts Americans in danger.

[GenuineRisk]

Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs sums it up well:

"The rioters who murdered UN workers and ran amok today in Kandahar are responsible for their actions. But Terry Jones, who was warned repeatedly by top US officials that violence would be the result, is also responsible for his actions. Jones is a pathetic coward who put the lives of others on the line in order to make a statement of pure bigotry. And more than a dozen are now dead because of it.

In this country, Jones has the constitutional right to burn any book he feels like burning. Should he be punished for this? Not legally, no. But this disgusting, deliberately provocative act does not deserve anyone’s support, and Jones is no hero for free speech. He’s a twisted, amoral man hiding behind religion — just like the Afghan imams who incited these crowds to violence."

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs sums it up well:

"The rioters who murdered UN workers and ran amok today in Kandahar are responsible for their actions. But Terry Jones, who was warned repeatedly by top US officials that violence would be the result, is also responsible for his actions. Jones is a pathetic coward who put the lives of others on the line in order to make a statement of pure bigotry. And more than a dozen are now dead because of it.

In this country, Jones has the constitutional right to burn any book he feels like burning. Should he be punished for this? Not legally, no. But this disgusting, deliberately provocative act does not deserve anyone’s support, and Jones is no hero for free speech. He’s a twisted, amoral man hiding behind religion — just like the Afghan imams who incited these crowds to violence."

Exactly!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

[Terry Jones] He’s a twisted, amoral man hiding behind religion — just like the Afghan imams who incited these crowds to violence."

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Riot

What I said, was:

The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

Yes, I agree the Taliban is just blood thirsty radical animals with no value on life.

But yeah - when the Taliban uses the clown in Florida to incite violence against our troops in Afghanistan, yeah - that puts Americans in danger.

The point I'm trying to make is that even if the pastor was out of the equation, the troops or anyone that is American for that matter would be in danger anyway. They don't need any reasons to kill Americans.

By you bringing up the pastor is almost like some sort of justifucation for them going around killing people.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The point I'm trying to make is that even if the pastor was out of the equation, the troops or anyone that is American for that matter would be in danger anyway. They don't need any reasons to kill Americans.

By you bringing up the pastor is almost like some sort of justifucation for them going around killing people.

Absolutely not...there is no justification for murder. But this guy was warned in the past that his burning the book could excite folks and make a dangerous situation that much more so. Remember, this bloodthirsty mob of animals didn't kill Americans but UN workers mainly from Africa. In the past 24 hours, riots have spread across the country with the predictable flag burning and hate America crowd using his actions as an excuse. I agree that it's tempting to say, "F them" let them go back to Taliban rule but the problem is that we've lost many American lives there and need a government free of the Taliban (and with them the terrorists plotting to attack us), so we need to have support of the people...and this crackpot's hateful act just set that back quite a bit.

Excuse me but there is no f.ucking way you libs are going to make Jed Clampett equally as guilty as the morons who murdered innocent people.

There are levels of stupidity. The people you're defending are at the bottom of the barrel. Jed may be real dumb but he's not even on the same planet as those clowns in Afghanistan. They are the problem, not Tater.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Excuse me but there is no f.ucking way you libs are going to make Jed Clampett equally as guilty as the morons who murdered innocent people.

There are levels of stupidity. The people you're defending are at the bottom of the barrel. Jed may be real dumb but he's not even on the same planet as those clowns in Afghanistan. They are the problem, not Tater.

Come on Coach, you can't read what we've been saying and conclude that we are defending the violent scum who murdered folks in the name of some garbage. Nor can you read our comments and conclude we are comparing the bigot with them. This is a case where it's not either/or, there are no good guys between Jed and the Afghanistan scum....his act had consequences and he's too full of hate to care, their actions deserve swift punishment to send a message that you can't murder innocent folks...period! Bigotry is vile and hateful, murder is murder...there is no equality of guilt but excusing Jed as a hapless loser misses the point.

You either support freedom or you support murdering psychopaths.

Jed is exposing a staggering percentage of Muslims as nothing more than murderous, oppressive thugs.

Sometimes in life you have to make a choice. And giving up our freedoms because some idiot is instigating other idiots is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE F.UCKING QUESTION.

And you're wasting your breath if you think it's ever going to stop. Pick a side.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You either support freedom or you support murdering psychopaths.

Jed is exposing a staggering percentage of Muslims as nothing more than murderous, oppressive thugs.

Sometimes in life you have to make a choice. And giving up our freedoms because some idiot is instigating other idiots is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE F.UCKING QUESTION.

And you're wasting your breath if you think it's ever going to stop. Pick a side.

I support freedom as much as anyone but with freedom comes responsibility. Millions of young men and women have died for our freedom, they understood as we must that freedom is never free! Jed has the right (paid for with the blood of many) to be a bigoted, hateful, idiot but when his behavior puts innocent lives at risk, he can't just sit back and smirk. His behavior was legal but morally corrupt and folks have a right to call him on it.

[Antitrust32]

This forum is starting to make me hate the word bigot. I see it at least 84 times a day here.

[Mike]

Still not okay to yell FIRE in a crowded theatre, even in the name of freedom of speech

And, can we not refer to ******* Jones as Pastor?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Jed is exposing a staggering percentage of Muslims as nothing more than murderous, oppressive thugs.

We've known the Taliban and the Afghani imans to be murderous for many decades. Nothing new here. What "staggering percentage" are you talking about?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The point I'm trying to make is that even if the pastor was out of the equation, the troops or anyone that is American for that matter would be in danger anyway. They don't need any reasons to kill Americans.

By you bringing up the pastor is almost like some sort of justifucation for them going around killing people.

Only if you completely ignore what I said about it. Which was the opposite.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Riot

The people of Afghanistan go with us or the Taliban, depending upon who the highest bidder is. It's that simple. We made great strides in the past couple of years by simply paying more for them to fight on our side. The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

As for the jackass in Florida, he's risking American lives with his quest for another 15 minutes of national fame.

Originally Posted by Riot

What I said, was:

The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

Yes, I agree the Taliban is just blood thirsty radical animals with no value on life.

But yeah - when the Taliban uses the clown in Florida to incite violence against our troops in Afghanistan, yeah - that puts Americans in danger.

Originally Posted by Riot

Only if you completely ignore what I said about it. Which was the opposite.

The first post says it all, then it looks like you do a little tap dance around it in the second (Suprise ).

The bottom line is that they are in danger 24 hours a day 7 days a week, because they are Americans. Reguardless of who is and who isn't burning books.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The first post says it all, then it looks like you do a little tap dance around it in the second (Suprise ).

No I didn't. Get a clue.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Riot

No I didn't. Get a clue.

Comical.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Comical.

Math....if three people found themselves in a cage with three hungry lions who were thankfully asleep, all they had to do was quietly exit the cage but suddenly Jed started pounding on the cage and yelling waking the lions who attacked and killed the people inside. Sure they were in danger simply by being in the cage and sure, the lions were man-eaters all along and everyone knew that but would you give old Jed a pass for his actions?

[GenuineRisk]

The Christian Science Monitor has a pretty good piece on how Jones' actions help the Taliban. Heading to the article:

"Many Afghans do not realize that US pastor Terry Jones, who held a Quran burning last month, heads a small church whose beliefs are not widely shared, thus fueling anti-foreigner sentiment that benefits the Taliban."

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Globa...ps-the-Taliban