What are your thoughts on Uncle Mo's Returning Race?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Did Repole run over your puppy or something?

Really. I certainly didn't like Uncle Mo going to the Timely Writer but comparing Repole to IEAH is crazy. A story that escaped a great deal of attention is that IEAH's Ruffian Equine Medical Center is currently closed and "re-structuring" for a May re-opening. They are scum.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Really. I certainly didn't like Uncle Mo going to the Timely Writer but comparing Repole to IEAH is crazy. A story that escaped a great deal of attention is that IEAH's Ruffian Equine Medical Center is currently closed and "re-structuring" for a May re-opening. They are scum.

Repole is just a character, comparing him to IEAH is fn stupid. If you like his personna or not racing could use 20 more Repole type owners. The world needs to be devoid of IEAH vermin, they have no place on this earth nevermind racing.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Repole is just a character, comparing him to IEAH is fn stupid. If you like his personna or not racing could use 20 more Repole type owners. The world needs to be devoid of IEAH vermin, they have no place on this earth nevermind racing.

I never compared him to IEAH, I stated now have someone I dislike more. No comparison made at all. I don't like him because he is gutless for running Uncle Mo in the Timely Writer.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by jms62

I never compared him to IEAH, I stated now have someone I dislike more. No comparison made at all. I don't like him because he is gutless for running Uncle Mo in the Timely Writer.

Disliking him more than anybody else requires a comparison of some sort. I really think your priorities are a little off on who you dislike and why. He's not the only one pulling that stuff. Jackson did it last year with Rachel. I'm gonna need something besides the Timely Writer situation as evidence of scum-like behavior on Repole's part.

Gulfstream could've said no. I don't like what they did, and that situation was discussed on ATR so I won't go on about it, but it's hardly comparable to IEAH. By all means, run off an owner who's got lots of money, enthusiasm for horse racing, and has been dreaming of owning a horse like this since he was a child. It's not gutless if he thinks his horse can beat anybody out there, and I genuinely think he does. Feel free to say it's unwise considering what can happen in the Derby, even to the best, without enough seasoning, but gutless?

Do you have any issues with Peachtree after the attempted/failed shenanigans with Flashpoint and the Swale? If I'm ranking ridiculous behavior, that was kind of worse than the creation of the Timely Writer.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Disliking him more than anybody else requires a comparison of some sort. I really think your priorities are a little off on who you dislike and why..

Maybe in your mind it does but not mine.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

I never compared him to IEAH, I stated now have someone I dislike more. No comparison made at all. I don't like him because he is gutless for running Uncle Mo in the Timely Writer.

Why the TB Derby is now the be all of Derby preps. Plus didn't TAP have the odds on fav in the race for another of his huge clients? You think he wanted the two to compete in March? Maybe there are some concerns about Uncle MO, perhaps Repole's neice isn't telling everybody, save DrugS, all the specifics?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Maybe there are some concerns about Uncle MO, perhaps Repole's neice isn't telling everybody, save DrugS, all the specifics?

Why shouldn't there be some concern?

Everything in the Pletcher barn gets hurt or falls apart... he can't even keep them together for a full season on laughably easy schedules.

If he trained war horses like Equipoise, Assault, and Stymie - those horses bodies would fall apart quickly in his program. No equine is tough enough to withstand being in that barn.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Why shouldn't there be some concern?

Everything in the Pletcher barn gets hurt or falls apart... he can't even keep them together for a full season on laughably easy schedules.

If he trained war horses like Equipoise, Assault, and Stymie - those horses bodies would fall apart quickly in his program. No equine is tough enough to withstand being in that barn.

He may train them too light and the effort of the race is too much. Also most of today horses have a pre-race vet bill that would choke a rhino. It takes a week to get them back to galloping while horses of old were back out at the races in 5-7 days, even the really good ones.

Stymie and Assault and the like wouldn't have ever gotten tough enough under his program to be "who they were." Also, common today is the "Saturday horses breeze on Sunday" routine. Look up the worktabs of most of TAP's stakes horses, they work either sat or Sun with almost no deviation. There is no individualized program of "this horse does well with a breeze 8 days out and a sharpener at 2f two days before..."
When TVG started the show "The Works" leading to the Derby is was Sunday-Thursday. Now most of the final pre- Derby works are done by Monday of Derby week. many are done by Saturday prior.

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by jms62

I never compared him to IEAH, I stated now have someone I dislike more. No comparison made at all. I don't like him because he is gutless for running Uncle Mo in the Timely Writer.

Gutless guys usually don't sell compnies they started
for half a billion dollars.

Maybe he got soft in his old age?

[JJP]

Perfect trip setups where you run your final quarter faster than your first quarter do little to give a 3YO the seasoning to get toughened up for the Triple Crown races.

Uncle Mo is a SELL

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by JJP

Perfect trip setups where you run your final quarter faster than your first quarter do little to give a 3YO the seasoning to get toughened up for the Triple Crown races.

Uncle Mo is a SELL

Agreed but who is so toughened up that is going to beat him?

[JJP]

How about Dialed In who was back in last in a TOTALLY paceless race. He ran a solid race to get 2nd under those circumstances.

[Gin talking]

I have read a few stories about how Uncle Mo and specifically Repole are hoping to help racing with a star like Uncle Mo. Well running him twice before the derby and probably retiring him at the end of the year does not help racing at all. Run you horse..

[Danzig]

altho i wish uncle mo wasn't being handled with such kid gloves, i certainly don't hold it against repole. this sport needs more owners; this guy seems to love the sport, and doesn't mind spending money. he just bought a couple horses at obs. we need him and more like him. owners first, work on more starts next.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Repole is just a character, comparing him to IEAH is fn stupid. If you like his personna or not racing could use 20 more Repole type owners.

Originally Posted by Gin talking

I have read a few stories about how Uncle Mo and specifically Repole are hoping to help racing with a star like Uncle Mo. Well running him twice before the derby and probably retiring him at the end of the year does not help racing at all. Run you horse..

Originally Posted by Danzig

altho i wish uncle mo wasn't being handled with such kid gloves, i certainly don't hold it against repole. this sport needs more owners; this guy seems to love the sport, and doesn't mind spending money. he just bought a couple horses at obs. we need him and more like him. owners first, work on more starts next.

Reading here and elsewhere about Mike Repole has made me wonder . . . Let's say for a moment that Mo is the next great horse, that he wins the Derby, and the Preakness, and maybe even the Triple Crown. Given the lauding about Repole's enthusiasm and what I've interpreted as his desire to boost the sport, what does Uncle Mo do for the rest of 2011? Would he campaign him aggressively? In the alternative, if Mo wins "only" one or two of the TC races, and races well through the end of the year and finishes sound, what are the chances that Mo comes back to race as a 4YO?

Partially answering my own first question, I am thinking of Repole repeatedly pointing Uncle Mo to the Wood Memorial for his last Derby prep race, but now backpeddling and saying that he may stay in Florida for the Florida Derby, saying, "It's up to Todd (Pletcher)."

After typing this ^^^^ I've slapped myself back to reality, knowing what Mo would have to achieve to even make my questions relevant. Here's to hoping that Uncle Mo comes up deserving of all the hype, and that then we get to see how Repole responds.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Reading here and elsewhere about Mike Repole has made me wonder . . . Let's say for a moment that Mo is the next great horse, that he wins the Derby, and the Preakness, and maybe even the Triple Crown. Given the lauding about Repole's enthusiasm and what I've interpreted as his desire to boost the sport, what does Uncle Mo do for the rest of 2011? Would he campaign him aggressively? In the alternative, if Mo wins "only" one or two of the TC races, and races well through the end of the year and finishes sound, what are the chances that Mo comes back to race as a 4YO?

Partially answering my own first question, I am thinking of Repole repeatedly pointing Uncle Mo to the Wood Memorial for his last Derby prep race, but now backpeddling and saying that he may stay in Florida for the Florida Derby, saying, "It's up to Todd (Pletcher)."

After typing this ^^^^ I've slapped myself back to reality, knowing what Mo would have to achieve to even make my questions relevant. Here's to hoping that Uncle Mo comes up deserving of all the hype, and that then we get to see how Repole responds.

Repole said he'd like to keep him running for as long as he is sound and doing well. Who knows though.

As for the type of campaign? I'd run him in the Vanity and Santa Margarita the next 3 years.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Reading here and elsewhere about Mike Repole has made me wonder . . . Let's say for a moment that Mo is the next great horse, that he wins the Derby, and the Preakness, and maybe even the Triple Crown. Given the lauding about Repole's enthusiasm and what I've interpreted as his desire to boost the sport, what does Uncle Mo do for the rest of 2011? Would he campaign him aggressively? In the alternative, if Mo wins "only" one or two of the TC races, and races well through the end of the year and finishes sound, what are the chances that Mo comes back to race as a 4YO?

Answer to my question (why haven't I seen this before now):

That's why he has already announced that if Uncle Mo stays healthy he will race next year as a 4-year-old. Repole, a very rich guy, gets it that the many millions that Uncle Mo could put in his pocket the minute he stops being a race horse and becomes a sire won't change his life one bit. He'd much rather enjoy watching the horse race and treating the racing fan to at least one more year of watching this potential superstar on the racetrack.

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