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Old 03-07-2011, 05:13 PM
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Yes, I do. The auto industries bargained terrific benefits, then they made bad cars and terrible business decisions, so they could no longer afford to pay for what they promised the unions.

But the UAW union isn't the Wisconsin teachers, librarian, prison, fire and police unions.
They bargained benefits that played a role in bankrupting the auto cos. They should have been allowed to go down. The UAW bit off the hand that feeds, but Obama was right there to save them with our $$. Screwing stock and bond holders. There is a huge difference between public and private sector unions. At least until the private sector unions need taxpayer $$ to survive.
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Old 03-07-2011, 08:51 PM
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Can the taxpayers get a list of those who were paid for in previous years?


The Milwaukee teachers union has dropped a lawsuit seeking to get its taxpayer-funded Viagra back.

The union sued in July 2010 to force the school board to again include the erectile dysfunction drug and similar pills in its health insurance plans.

The union has argued the board’s policy of excluding such drugs from the plans discriminates against male employees; the board has countered the 2005 move was meant to save money.


Really!!!!!!!!

http://www.gazettextra.com/weblogs/l...p-viagra-suit/
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:12 PM
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They bargained benefits that played a role in bankrupting the auto cos. They should have been allowed to go down. The UAW bit off the hand that feeds, but Obama was right there to save them with our $$. Screwing stock and bond holders. There is a huge difference between public and private sector unions. At least until the private sector unions need taxpayer $$ to survive.
Didn't GM make a billion dollar profit this year? The US has sold off most of it's GM's shares, so we've gotten most of our money back. GM has far less debt, still has money to pay for all those retirees' pensions it's carrying (a terrible thing if those were gone forever), and still has all those jobs in development, manufacturing, etc. It's leaner, meaner, and should be around. I disagree it should have been allowed to go bankrupt and disappear, with all those pensions and jobs with it.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:10 PM
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Didn't GM make a billion dollar profit this year? The US has sold off most of it's GM's shares, so we've gotten most of our money back. GM has far less debt, still has money to pay for all those retirees' pensions it's carrying (a terrible thing if those were gone forever), and still has all those jobs in development, manufacturing, etc. It's leaner, meaner, and should be around. I disagree it should have been allowed to go bankrupt and disappear, with all those pensions and jobs with it.
the jobs went first , then they stole the pensions. And GM was crowing about paying their debt while they were warning about the 16bil shortfall in pensiions out of the other side of their mouths. It was and is criminal!
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