3/5 (SA): Big Cap, Kilroe Mile, SA Oaks (G1's), Clocker's Corner

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I'm not following everyone being 100% positive that Twirling Candy initiated the contact. It looked extremely close. But regardless, the idea that Game On Dude 'maintained a straight course' is laughable.

I'm not maintaining that he necessarily did, either. But is a half a path before a horse knocks your hind end a DQ offense?

We'll all have differing opinions, and at the very least, the decision was much closer/could've gone either way than your posts so far suggest.

As I told someone else tonight, I didn't bet the race, but could see the call going either way, but every time they showed the head-on, it became less and less obvious that Game On Dude should come down, and I'm glad he didn't, because you can't penalize him for the second bump, since that was TC's fault.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'm not maintaining that he necessarily did, either. But is a half a path before a horse knocks your hind end a DQ offense?

We'll all have differing opinions, and at the very least, the decision was much closer/could've gone either way than your posts so far suggest.

As I told someone else tonight, I didn't bet the race, but could see the call going either way, but every time they showed the head-on, it became less and less obvious that Game On Dude should come down, and I'm glad he didn't, because you can't penalize him for the second bump, since that was TC's fault.

Dude, she forced TC wide coming into the stretch, and Victor didn't give ground. Hence, TC sandwich. Then, she again taps 3 times left, and comes out as TC comes in. If people would look, they'd see there isn't all that much lateral movement involved in that, but there is no room for any lateral movement, because the bitch is so intent on making TC tight. She is not innocent in that bump. She is moving out, and he's moving in. Matter of fact, he's trying to get back to the area of the track he was on before Joel let her float him out into Setsuko. Amazing how she can come to her right as much as she wants, but T Candy is at fault the 1st time he makes a slight left. This bitch hasn't stayed straight. If she'd of stayed straight coming into the stretch, then TC wouldn't of had contact with Setsuko.

[ranger5830]

Two thoughts:

First, you have to be about the biggest idiot in the world to make a $100,000+ show wager in an 11-horse field, especially on a horse who was completely unproven at the distance, and indeed showed distance limitations in the goodwood.

Second, it's unbelievable to me that the same bunch of stewards that unjustifiably DQ'ed The Wicked North for virtually no infraction in this same race in '94 could allow this result to stand, when Game on Dude clearly starts to come out immediately after Chantal hits him left-handed. It appeared to me that the momentum lost certainly could have cost TC 4th place, which would warrant a DQ.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

When they 1st straighten into the stretch, do you see all that room between her and the fence? Do you really think she was that wide on the turn? Nope. She's trying to float them. At the very last instance of that float job, she lets him come out just too much, and Joel has to bump Setsuko. Victor also wants to make TC tight, but he's doing it in a fair manor. What he really did is show you exactly how much she's trying to float out. Victor keeps Setsuko the same distance from the rail. Well, as you can see, TC has no choice, but to run into Setsuko. He's being floated out into someone who refuses to move out (Victor doesn't have to move out just because this bitch decides to float Candy out.) So, Candy is forced into Setsuko. That 1st bump pushes Setsuko out towards the grandstand. It cost him some momentum (getting pushed sideways is not helpful.) Folks, you can stop the video right there. That next collision between TC and her horse is a 50/50, or 60/40. They got so infatuated with that collision that they lost track of the fact that she was earlier responsible for forcing TC into Setsuko. That's a foul. She 100% caused that foul. Both Victor and Chantal were trying to make it tough on T Candy. Victor did it by race riding (not giving ground when she floated T Candy out.) Chantal did it by fouling T Candy (she swerves out a lot just as they're about to straighten into the stretch.) Again that left handed whip. She came out too much right there. It forces TC into Setsuko. That's a foul. A foul they ignored, because they got interested in the more ugly bumping 3 or 4 seconds later.

[HaloWishingwell]

I know this isn't the NFL where the play on the field stands until the replay provides absolutely clear cut evidence of reversal. I know their judgement was based on thinking that TC actually hit GOD hind quarters and initiated the contact. Judging from the differences in opinion here would it justified taking GOD down when the evidence apparently wasn't so clear cut?