3/5 (SA): Big Cap, Kilroe Mile, SA Oaks (G1's), Clocker's Corner

[randallscott35]

TC is who we thought he was.

Correct no call. Dreadful race.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

TC is who we thought he was.

Correct no call. Dreadful race.

'''''damn good performance from game on.....

[NTamm1215]

I can't wait to see what underlaid prices Turbulent Descent and Zazu are in the Oaks future wager next week. That race was an eyesore.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I can't wait to see what underlaid prices Turbulent Descent and Zazu are in the Oaks future wager next week. That race was an eyesore.

I'm just waiting to see if It's Tricky cracks the Top 10.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm just waiting to see if It's Tricky cracks the Top 10.

No chance. The California 3YOs are superior, it's just people like you and I who are missing out in not embracing them.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm just waiting to see if It's Tricky cracks the Top 10.

You and your unreasonable expectations..

[Borntorun]

I've been following Setsuko since his G1 place at SA over Lookin at Lucky last year and felt good about him getting the distance so I bet $2 on him to win and $3 to show along with a $1 exacta saver of 5 w/1,6. I was extremely disappointed they did not take Game on Dude down but want to thank all for their input. To read the variuos opinions help ease the pain of a really tough beat.

[AeWingnut]

if a 70-1 shot would have took the favorite wide and the fav starts playing bumper cars with everyone

the 70-1 would have been taken down even if he did nothing wrong

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

if a 70-1 shot would have took the favorite wide and the fav starts playing bumper cars with everyone

the 70-1 would have been taken down even if he did nothing wrong

Yes. The game is destined to run new players off. Who usually bets 70-1 shots? Crackheads and/or new bettors. You'll keep the crackheads and lose most of the new bettors save a few that are crackheads.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes. The game is destined to run new players off. Who usually bets 70-1 shots? Crackheads and/or new bettors. You'll keep the crackheads and lose most of the new bettors save a few that are crackheads.

so if you bet 70-1 shots you are on crack

or the whole thing is just another popularity contest

[Indian Charlie]

I cannot fathom how people can possibly watch the replay as many times as they showed it and think GOD did not bear out BADLY into TC and cause that chain reaction.

Did you only watch the part of the race where contact was first made, and not the several seconds prior to that?????????????

Un
Believe
Able.

I think the human race is getting dumber by the day, and yesterday was a big day.

I didn't watch the race. Santa Anita's "dirt" course sucks balls. All of the races are auto-tosses.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I cannot fathom how people can possibly watch the replay as many times as they showed it and think GOD did not bear out BADLY into TC and cause that chain reaction.

Did you only watch the part of the race where contact was first made, and not the several seconds prior to that?????????????

Un
Believe
Able.

I think the human race is getting dumber by the day, and yesterday was a big day.

I actually thought the explanation the stewards gave Trevor to give out was quite sensible. If you watch the head-on, because the pan shot is useless, it is noticeable that Twirling Candy leans in and hits Game on Dude. Now, the question becomes whether Game on Dude was coming out at the exact same time.

The stewards took an interesting view and I wonder how much Chantal pleading her case helped them take this approach. I imagine she was persuasive and said Twirling Candy initiated the contact.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I cannot fathom how people can possibly watch the replay as many times as they showed it and think GOD did not bear out BADLY into TC and cause that chain reaction.

Did you only watch the part of the race where contact was first made, and not the several seconds prior to that?????????????

Un
Believe
Able.

I think the human race is getting dumber by the day, and yesterday was a big day.

At 1st, I thought it was a hard call. I mean, if you're lazy, and just look at the collision between Candy-GOD, Then, I can see how someone would say she could stay up. If you look at what happened earlier, then, you should come to the conclusion that she fouled. That 1st collision between Setsuko-Candy is caused by Chantal floating out way too far (as they tried to straighten.) She came out a lot, and all at once. It's at a time when horses are shifting weight. So, people are expecting them to float right there, but she takes the opportunity to float a ton. Some say that Setsuko was responsible for coming in right there. He isn't. Victor just refuses to be floated out as much as the other 2. He is under control. The other two are not, and that's because she is floating her horse, (and Candy) out. T Candy is fouled right there. Even if you say he was gunna be dead, he wasn't dead there. The fact is that he has to make contact with Setsuko, or he would of clipped hills with GD. Just look at the distance GD is from the rail when he 1st straightens into the stretch. There is no way that he was that far out on the turn. Setsuko has not come in. He is just refusing to be floated. I wish Joel had refused it, too. He should have driven this bitch back to the rail, and refused to forced out into Setsuko.

“They bumped him real hard inside and out,” jockey Joel Rosario said.

Joel is gunna have to learn to ride much more defensively (on severe chalk.)
I mean, the only reason to let her stay up is because they let every other jock (in the race) ride Candy, too. Normally, Victor would have given more ground for Chantal to float these two horses out (although, he doesn't have to.) She's riding Candy. Victor was riding Candy. They sandwich him, and, somehow, like 99% of the people ignore it:

“They bumped him real hard inside and out,” jockey Joel Rosario said.

I guess someone will have to put a still up of the sandwich. That's about the only way people are gunna take note of it. Really, the thing that's surprising me is that he is badly fouled by at least 1 horse, and the stewards have Trevor come on and say he fouled. Yea, he 50% fouled a horse who had floated him out into another horse. God forbide he take back any of the ground he earlier had taken away from him by this bitch. I know people want to beat favorites. I think he was gunna tire, but polease don't tell me they didn't sandwich that Candy Horse coming into the stretch. He's not "dead" when it happened. Was he gunna tire without being sandwiched? Probably, but it's still a foul on 1 or both of those other horses.