Sanchez....

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Sorry, had to re-read this and got a further chuckle. I don't mean to belabor this point, but what has he done in his career that's better than, say, Jason Campbell? Honest question. And there's not a single scout in the league who would take Sanchez over his two 2009 first round draft mates (Stafford when healthy, Freeman). Cassel has GROSSLY outplayed Sanchez this year - that's not even debateable. McNabb's a HOF-er. Favre is 2,903 years old, but based on the way T-Jack played last week (INT's and all), he's still close to Sanchez. Romo's better, not even close. I hate Cutler's ass face, but the guy at least has some talent. You lost me on Bradford - he's the offensive rookie of the year - and has looked pretty good, yesterday excepted.

Aside from that, there are some pretty awful quarterbacks starting right now in the league. Excellent points.

The irony of asking who you'd take if you had to win one game then saying you'd choose a QB whose career win percentage is .400 is not lost on me.

Sanchez played poorly yesterday, and the week before. I've never disputed that. But you're dealing with a QB who just made his 28th regular season start and suddenly determining that he has no future in the NFL. Gone are the memories of the game he played against NE in Week 2 or the comeback wins against Detroit, Cleveland, and Houston.

You can't make proclamations on who's good or who's bad by QB ratings and raw stats. I understand you're a Lions fan but I can't see how more than 5-6 GMs in the NFL would take Stafford right now. The guy could separate his shoulder sneezing.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The irony of asking who you'd take if you had to win one game then saying you'd choose a QB whose career win percentage is .400 is not lost on me.

Sanchez played poorly yesterday, and the week before. I've never disputed that. But you're dealing with a QB who just made his 28th regular season start and suddenly determining that he has no future in the NFL. Gone are the memories of the game he played against NE in Week 2 or the comeback wins against Detroit, Cleveland, and Houston.

You can't make proclamations on who's good or who's bad by QB ratings and raw stats. I understand you're a Lions fan but I can't see how more than 5-6 GMs in the NFL would take Stafford right now. The guy could separate his shoulder sneezing.

The issue is that Sanchez had a lousy rookie year and knee-jerkers like Tubby Guidohair jumped to the conclusion that he sucks, ignoring factors like age and lack of experience. In the early part of the year, his play made these people reconsider their ironclad opinions, which they don't like doing. Now that he's had a couple of shitty games, they can safely go back to the premature writing him off mode.

The bottom line is he sure as hell has improved from last year to this year but he still has a lot more improving to do, namely in inclement weather games. I don't care what you think of his play thus far, but if you're closing the book on him less than two seasons into his career when he only had 16 college starts, I humbly suggest that you're a moron who doesn't understand the position.

[slotdirt]

Totally off topic, but the sight of the Vikings logo being painted in the middle of Ford Field kind of makes me want to vomit in my mouth. Maybe this means the NFL will think Detroit not sucking isn't such a bad thing after all? </conspiracy theory>

[declansharbor]

Here's a tough one. Sanchez or Bradford?


I'd side with Bradford to build a franchise around, but I'm curious to see what others views are on this one. I like both of them as they move forward, but Bradford seems to have the edge imo.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Here's a tough one. Sanchez or Bradford?


I'd side with Bradford to build a franchise around, but I'm curious to see what others views are on this one. I like both of them as they move forward, but Bradford seems to have the edge imo.

Next year will be the year you will know about Bradford. He has been impressive with limited talent

[Cannon Shell]

I think the obvious thing that people are missing in regards to Sanchez is that the Jets offensive line has played poorly of late which certainly plays a big factor in how he plays. In the 4th quarter of the last game Miami was blitzing and creating pressure on almost every play.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think the obvious thing that people are missing in regards to Sanchez is that the Jets offensive line has played poorly of late which certainly plays a big factor in how he plays. In the 4th quarter of the last game Miami was blitzing and creating pressure on almost every play.

They had some individual breakdowns, especially Hunter against Wake, but there were many situations where, and the Dolphin players saw this, he had happy feet, and stepped up into trouble when he should have stayed put. Also, and he admitted this, he wasn't holding onto the ball with both hands in the pocket, which led to a couple of fumbles. The poor footwork had much to do with his game-long inaccuracy.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think the obvious thing that people are missing in regards to Sanchez is that the Jets offensive line has played poorly of late which certainly plays a big factor in how he plays. In the 4th quarter of the last game Miami was blitzing and creating pressure on almost every play.

I have said it once and I will say it again-this team is very average blocking pass. They are top couple in the league at blocking run but that is a totally different deal and few lines do both well.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Here's a tough one. Sanchez or Bradford?


I'd side with Bradford to build a franchise around, but I'm curious to see what others views are on this one. I like both of them as they move forward, but Bradford seems to have the edge imo.

i'm very impressed with bradford, i think he has a bright future ahead of him.

[slotdirt]

Based on a very, very limited sample size, Bradford by a mile.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Based on a very, very limited sample size, Bradford by a mile.

Its more like 3 miles.
I would even take Colt Mccoy. He has no weapons at all and has shown talent.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The irony of asking who you'd take if you had to win one game then saying you'd choose a QB whose career win percentage is .400 is not lost on me.

Sanchez played poorly yesterday, and the week before. I've never disputed that. But you're dealing with a QB who just made his 28th regular season start and suddenly determining that he has no future in the NFL. Gone are the memories of the game he played against NE in Week 2 or the comeback wins against Detroit, Cleveland, and Houston.

You can't make proclamations on who's good or who's bad by QB ratings and raw stats. I understand you're a Lions fan but I can't see how more than 5-6 GMs in the NFL would take Stafford right now. The guy could separate his shoulder sneezing.

How about your boy Matt Ice last night?
Schaub... The peoples QB.