The real party of NO, the GOP, steps it up

[dellinger63]

Hey the Party is over. Time to turn on the lights and start cleaning up. And NO there will be no more cake or drink given out.

As I was told 2 years ago, DEAL WITH IT!

[Cannon Shell]

I guess Riot never heard of lame duck sessions. Yeah the American people want the guys just voted out to make some more decisions before they are escorted from the building

I just find it amusing that she makes it out like politics is only a factor on one side of the aisle. I find it a little disturbing that she thinks politically she is in the center.

Hey she's charitable. Don't believe me? Just ask the smug b.itch.

[Nascar1966]

Its not like the Democrats haven't played dirty pool for the past two years when they had the numbers. Payback is a bitch and every dog has its day. Enjoy the next two years of payback Democratic puppets.

[Riot]

I'll happily keep pointing out the unprecedented ridiculousness of the current GOP incarnation as long as their minority side is acting outrageously irresponsible compared to the other.

Have the Dems forced a record nearly 200 filibusters in 2 years? Cloture votes on everything? Blocked routine funding bills for weeks just because they didn't like the President? Naw.

Has the GOP? Absolutely.

Nascar, you say the Dems have done the same during the past two years. No, they haven't. And they didn't in the past with Bush, nor with Clinton. Either did the GOP.

No other minority Senate has been as obstructive. Voting records of the Senate are public and on the internet. Feel free to post it if you have it.

The minority GOP has obstructed and forced the Dems to get 60 in a cloture vote on every vote that the Constitution says needs 51.

And now the GOP is so brazen they are putting it in writing, that they are publicly throwing a temper tantrum, blocking everything - DADT, START, funding, etc - until they get tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. They are willing to throw 98% of Americans under the bus. They are blowing it, just like Gingrich did.

Dell, you say payback is a bitch? Yes, it will be. The GOP only won seats in the House. They are still the minority party in the Senate after Jan. 1. Reid is still in charge.

The minority GOP is going to lose their filibuster capability the first moments the new Senate opens, when the Dems change the Senate rules on them.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I guess Riot never heard of lame duck sessions. Yeah the American people want the guys just voted out to make some more decisions before they are escorted from the building

And you don't realize that the people didn't vote out the Democrats? That after January 1, the Senate is still a Democratically-controlled majority, with Reid in charge? And Dem President who holds veto power?

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

I find it disturbing you think you are a rather typical Republican. And are unawares of the election results.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

After the 2008 election, the power of the Democrats was overstated. After the 2010 election, the loss of power is overstated. With the filibuster crap, it makes it easy to narrow one of the 3 sections of pipe. Nothing can become law without all 3 sections of the pipe flowing.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

After the 2008 election, the power of the Democrats was overstated. After the 2010 election, the loss of power is overstated. With the filibuster crap, it makes it easy to narrow one of the 3 sections of pipe. Nothing can become law without all 3 sections of the pipe flowing.

Exactly. Oooooh, I like your Min Pin avatar!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you don't realize that the people didn't vote out the Democrats? That after January 1, the Senate is still a Democratically-controlled majority, with Reid in charge? And Dem President who holds veto power?

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

I find it disturbing you think you are a rather typical Republican. And are unawares of the election results.

I never said I was a typical Republician. As a matter of fact I never said that I was a Republican either. I have some social views that would be decidedly not typically Republican.

As for your assertion that the GOP "only" won the Senate, there seems to be an awful lot of handwringing from the left over that "small" victory. Didn't the GOP pick up some seats in the Senate as well? Yeah the President has a 44% approval rate, the Democrats just lost the House and lost seats in the Senate. That sounds like they did great!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As for your assertion that the GOP "only" won the Senate there seems to be an awful lot of handwringing from the left over that "small" victory. Didn't the GOP pick up some seats in the Senate as well? Yeah the President has a 44% approval rate, the Democrats just lost the House and lost seats in the Senate. That sounds like they did great!

You typo'd, I said House, not Senate.

Of course the Dems want to keep seats, just like the GOP wants to win them. The norm after a big presidential is to switch over the legislative branch.

So it's rather notable, that in spite of the past two years of fear mongering: death panel, horrible Communist, Muslim, Socialist, Hitler, ruining our country, take our country back, creation of the Tea Party by the Koch brothers, health care will destroy us meme, resulting in the most endangered Senate Majority leader in ages (Reid) - and the GOP couldn't beat Reid. Or win Delaware. Lost the Alaska seat to a write in.

First time in modern history the "switch" party took only the House back, but couldn't take the Senate.

The lowest amount of House seats won out of the past three "switch" elections.

The President's approval rating may be 44%, but that's higher than Clinton, Bush Two and Reagan at this point in their presidencies. And higher than the Dem party in general, and much higher than the GOP general approval rating.

Yeah, considering what could have been, the Dems lucked out.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

You typo'd, I said House, not Senate.

Of course the Dems want to keep seats, just like the GOP wants to win them. The norm after a big presidential is to switch over the legislative branch.

So it's rather notable, that in spite of the past two years of fear mongering: death panel, horrible Communist, Muslim, Socialist, Hitler, ruining our country, take our country back, creation of the Tea Party by the Koch brothers, health care will destroy us meme, resulting in the most endangered Senate Majority leader in ages (Reid) - and the GOP couldn't beat Reid. Or win Delaware. Lost the Alaska seat to a write in.

First time in modern history the "switch" party took only the House back, but couldn't take the Senate.

The lowest amount of House seats won out of the past three "switch" elections.

The President's approval rating may be 44%, but that's higher than Clinton, Bush Two and Reagan at this point in their presidencies. And higher than the Dem party in general, and much higher than the GOP general approval rating.

Yeah, considering what could have been, the Dems lucked out.

The election that took place two years into Bush's presidency (2002).. The republicans gained 8 seats.

In 2004, the Republicans gained 3 net seats (gained 8, lost 5)

in 2006, the dems gained 31 seats.

in 2008, the dems gained 21 seats

in 2010, the republicans gained 63 seats


to go farther back..

in 2000.. the dems gained 2 seats in the house

1998 - dems gained 5 seats

1996 - dems gained 9 seats

1994 - republicans gained 54 seats

in fact, the 63 seats taken by the GOP in 2010 was the largest gain in any house election since by a single party since 1948, when the dems picked up 75 seats.

They also gained more seats in one election than the Dems gained in the 2006 & 2008 elections combined... when Republican hating was at it's peak.

Therefore, and I'm not being mean to you anymore.. its my post historic election landslide victory promise... but you are so very very wrong about this not being a historic election for the GOP.



Also, they gained 6 out of 37 seats up for grabs in the Senate... a 16% gain.

of the 37 seats:

Republicans won 24

Dems won 13


Repubs would have most likely took Reid's seat and the Deleware one, if they had offered even semi-sane candidates.. but of course you know this, since you started about 74 threads about it prior to the election. But hey... blame goes on the GOP for those two seats.

if all 100 seats were up for grabs (which I of course know is never the case) Repubs easily have control of the senate and possibly a super majority.


so there it is, in plain english, comprised of nothing but facts (except the bottom two paragraphs, which are my opinion)... the historic skull fucl<ing the Dems took on Nov 2, 2010.

[Antitrust32]

you realistically could add Scott Brown's historic win in MA to the Senate toll, eventhough it was a jan 2010 special election.

that would be 38 seats up for grab in 2010... gain of 7 by repubs, 18.4% gain.

Repubs: 25
Dems: 13

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so there it is, in plain english, comprised of nothing but facts (except the bottom two paragraphs, which are my opinion)... the historic skull fucl<ing the Dems took on Nov 2, 2010.

Good stats :-) Do you have the total number of seats the parties controlled before and after the elections?

Percentage of wins/losses is important, yes, but it's relative to the starting point. Certainly this election alot of House seats changed over, a huge percentage, but many had Dems sitting in them, rather than the usual GOP, to start with. Those Dems were oddities that were only there because of the Obama effect of 2008, many of those seats are historically GOP seats, and reverted right back to them.

The most notable thing I see post-election is what is being discussed in the southern states - locally and at a state level, Dems are becoming an endangered species. And changing over to be "GOP" (parties switch) so they can be involved in policy making. This goes directly to gerrymandering district configurations.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you don't realize that the people didn't vote out the Democrats? That after January 1, the Senate is still a Democratically-controlled majority, with Reid in charge? And Dem President who holds veto power?

The only thing the GOP won was a majority in the House.

I find it disturbing you think you are a rather typical Republican. And are unawares of the election results.

Im sure Obama will veto a Republican Bill that would good for this country. Yes I know the tool Reid kept his seat unfortunately. It doesnt hurt me you call me a typical Republican either.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure Obama will veto a Republican Bill that would good for this country. Yes I know the tool Reid kept his seat unfortunately. It doesnt hurt me you call me a typical Republican either.

I wouldn't call you that. I think you are in the far right wing of the GOP, a little right of Sarah Palin and way to the right of Pat Buchannan. But what I say doesn't matter You characterize yourself.