Champions Who Failed As Stallions

[VictoryGallop]

Thanks, Repent ! This is probably one of my all time favorite horses and I always follow his progeny and have won a lot of money on these youngsters. I couldn't believe what I was reading.

[repent]

Originally Posted by VictoryGallop

Thanks, Repent ! This is probably one of my all time favorite horses and I always follow his progeny and have won a lot of money on these youngsters. I couldn't believe what I was reading.

its the whole triple crown lunacy that blinds so many fans.
Im not saying thats what BB was doing, but its the most overemphasized part of the game.

Vgallop performed well in the triple crown races.
so ppl want to see his horses do well in the triple crown races and consider him a disappointment when they do not.
its BS.
same for Free House.
he was a very good California sire when he was alive.
so what if they did not run in triple crown races.
its just 3 races, and to be honest, the Preakness and Belmont are 2 of the softer Grade 1 races around at this point.
the Haskell and Travers almost always come up tougher as far as 3Yo Grade 1 races are concerned.



Repent

Originally Posted by VictoryGallop

Thanks, Repent ! This is probably one of my all time favorite horses and I always follow his progeny and have won a lot of money on these youngsters. I couldn't believe what I was reading.

Stallion success is measured by the quality of the runners they produce (sires of runners)... and whether or not any of their sons become successful sires (sires of sires) ... and/or if they produce a string of daughters who become successful broodmares (sires of broodmares) ...

... not by the number of bets you cash on claiming and allowance races.

Sires of Runners: There is a statistic called the Lifetime Average Earnings Index (Lifetime AEI) ... which provides a good measure of success as a sire of runners. Only stallions with Lifetime AEI's above 3.00 are generally considered to be successful sires of runners. I don't have that figure for all of the stallions I cited ... but I doubt if any of them are anywhere near 3.00. Also important is the percentage of stakes winners ... which should be above 10% ... and as high as 15% or more for the great stallions. None of the stallions I cited comes close to those figures.

Sires of Sires: This becomes evident when a stallions sons go to stud. It's a bit early for some of the more recent horses on my list ... but it's highly doubtful that any of them will produce one or more sons who are success at stud.

Broodmare Sires: Same as Sires of Sires ... but on the female side.