The Golden Syringe Award

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

JC Guerrero ran a good one off the claim a week or so ago. Claimed the horse for $16,000 and won a $75,000 PA bred stakes a few weeks later...easily.

That may be considered a drop in class

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That may be considered a drop in class

Yeah, but to be fair, it was a 16K Non-winners of one for the year it was claimed out... and the horse ran 3rd beaten six lengths in a field of 6.

1st off of the claim, wins the 75K PA Bred stake by 8+ lengths at odds of 3/5 in a 9 horse field. Now that he blew the N1Y condition - I doubt that horse is worth 10K to almost any other trainer. He'll keeping hammering out mid 80 Beyers for the Impaler though.

[dalakhani]

How does John Carlisle rate?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How does John Carlisle rate?

He's 41% and profitable this year - but only 31 wins. No way he gets 19 more.

Carlisle's had less than 300 starts spaced over a 10 year training career.