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Old 10-20-2010, 04:03 PM
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She could run her best race and still finish second, Blame or Quality Road could both run career highs? Lookin at Lucky is an improving 3 yr old and could be deemed as extremely dangerous, and finally those that believe Zenyatta has beaten nothing in her career, as you have pointed out many times here would entertain the thought atleast.
Answer a question directly for once. Why would anyone offer 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite? It makes no sense.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:05 PM
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Answer a question directly for once. Why would anyone offer 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite? It makes no sense.
as a bookmaker maybe to attract all the action because they feel she should be 100/1?
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:08 PM
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as a bookmaker maybe to attract all the action because they feel she should be 100/1?
I hope this is some of your well known humor.
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Old 10-20-2010, 05:54 PM
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I hope this is some of your well known humor.
maybe you can edumacate me....us re-tards dont really understand such things
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Old 10-20-2010, 06:12 PM
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:46 PM
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:43 PM
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maybe you can edumacate me....us re-tards dont really understand such things
You said it, not me.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:18 AM
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I got 10-1 on Lookin at Lucky at the Wynn this summer. Good investment I think. Potential post time odds? I am thinking 4-1 maybe??
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:08 PM
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as a bookmaker maybe to attract all the action because they feel she should be 100/1?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

No sentient being on the planet with any understanding of numbers would put her fair odds at 100-1. . . especially those in the business of setting lines and taking bets.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:05 PM
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If I had a load of cash, I'd pay whomever would take it to not run Zenyatta at CD and instead go in some fake race out in CA just so I wouldn't have to hear about Jay Hovdey's Zenyatta boner for the next five years if she actually won.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:09 PM
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Answer a question directly for once. Why would anyone offer 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite? It makes no sense.
I'll give you 3 infact.

1. Someone that thinks she will be a complete bust on dirt
2. Someone that thinks she has been the luckiest horse on earth
3. Someone that thinks she has beaten absolutely no one

Let me assume your follow up question, just because she is the favorite it means diddly squat, may I remind you of Dollar Bill in the Derby 6-1? So what does that mean, unless you do rate Zenyatta a little higher than you are letting on?
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:11 PM
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I'll give you 3 infact.

1. Someone that thinks she will be a complete bust on dirt
2. Someone that thinks she has been the luckiest horse on earth
3. Someone that thinks she has beaten absolutely no one

Let me assume your follow up question, just because she is the favorite it means diddly squat, may I remind you of Dollar Bill in the Derby 6-1? So what does that mean, unless you do rate Zenyatta a little higher than you are letting on?
Even if you hated Zenyatta, why offer higher odds than you would have to to get action? People aren't offering 10-1 on even money shots on Betfair, they're offering 3/2 or 2-1.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:18 PM
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Even if you hated Zenyatta, why offer higher odds than you would have to to get action? People aren't offering 10-1 on even money shots on Betfair, they're offering 3/2 or 2-1.
This is not straight fwd win bet, I think I articulated the conditions pretty clearly.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:20 PM
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This is not straight fwd win bet, I think I articulated the conditions pretty clearly.
What isn't a straightforward win bet? You asked if Zenyatta's detractors would offer 10-1 on her winning the classic. Of course they wouldn't--even if they thought that was below her fair odds--because they could get away with offering less.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:25 PM
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What isn't a straightforward win bet? You asked if Zenyatta's detractors would offer 10-1 on her winning the classic. Of course they wouldn't--even if they thought that was below her fair odds--because they could get away with offering less.
I would classify this more as a prop bet, it was designed for those that are dead set against her in the classic. They don't even have to like who is running against her, though you are getting get Blame, QR, LAL.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:26 PM
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I would classify this more as a prop bet, it was designed for those that are dead set against her in the classic. They don't even have to like who is running against her, though you are getting get Blame, QR, LAL.
Only you would classify a win bet as a prop bet.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:29 PM
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I would classify this more as a prop bet, it was designed for those that are dead set against her in the classic. They don't even have to like who is running against her, though you are getting get Blame, QR, LAL.
I think you try to use confusing responses to hide the fact that your original points are idiotic, but you just make yourself look more stupid.

How is what you're describing different from booking a horse?
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:31 PM
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At least we now know what is truly amazing about Zenyatta.....


she is the first 5YO Filly. Now, that is special. She is definitely the best 5YO Filly I have ever heard of.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:33 PM
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At least we now know what is truly amazing about Zenyatta.....


she is the first 5YO Filly. Now, that is special. She is definitely the best 5YO Filly I have ever heard of.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:13 PM
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I'll give you 3 infact.

1. Someone that thinks she will be a complete bust on dirt
2. Someone that thinks she has been the luckiest horse on earth
3. Someone that thinks she has beaten absolutely no one

Let me assume your follow up question, just because she is the favorite it means diddly squat, may I remind you of Dollar Bill in the Derby 6-1? So what does that mean, unless you do rate Zenyatta a little higher than you are letting on?
You find someone offering her at 10-1 and I'll show you a sucker. Plain and simple.

I think she's going to be off the board, but I know enough not to offer up 10-1 on a horse that is going to be 2-1 or less. Only in the land of Zenyatta does that make sense.
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