BEYER: Defining Zenyatta's historical role

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Would I care about the streak? I doubt that there would be a streak as I most assuredly would have challenged her by running in races that mean something and perhaps may have been defeated. However I also might have won races like the Big Cap or Whitney or Woodward or JC Gold Cup or Foster or Arlington Million or Beverly D or Diana or Hollywood Gold Cup or Pacific Classic or Goodwood or something like that. I guarantee that I wouldn't have won either the East coast or West Coast version of the Lady's Secret this year.

Not with Jerry and Ann Moss, they really dont like to ship around that much, only reason I know this is because Dick used to train for them. They would ship for BC races and such but they were never interested in having their horses travel that much.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

Not with Jerry and Ann Moss, they really dont like to ship around that much, only reason I know this is because Dick used to train for them. They would ship for BC races and such but they were never interested in having their horses travel that much.

Which is completely their prerogative. But in not doing so they open themselves up to criticism which is IMO, deserved. They may have some aversion to shipping but they (and the 'fans' of the horse) should understand that in doing so they have looked like they are ducking competition. If they had run in the Pacific Classic, Hollywood Gold Cup or Goodwood, the fear of shipping excuse wouldn't have looked so lame.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Which is completely their prerogative. But in not doing so they open themselves up to criticism which is IMO, deserved. They may have some aversion to shipping but they (and the 'fans' of the horse) should understand that in doing so they have looked like they are ducking competition. If they had run in the Pacific Classic, Hollywood Gold Cup or Goodwood, the fear of shipping excuse wouldn't have looked so lame.

you act like you've never heard of the Rocky Mountains.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

Not with Jerry and Ann Moss, they really dont like to ship around that much, only reason I know this is because Dick used to train for them. They would ship for BC races and such but they were never interested in having their horses travel that much.

that's their right. but to then cry foul when their tactics bite them in the butt is a bit much. you can't proclaim a horse is good, and have everyone agree. that's what races are for. even if they wished to stay home, they could have found more challenges, couldn't they? most likely, yes.