BEYER: Defining Zenyatta's historical role

[Smooth Operator]

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Hmmm, where do I have Washington on the College Football Top 25 polls? Better yet, where does everyone else?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

Hmmm, where do I have Washington on the College Football Top 25 polls? Better yet, where does everyone else?

Somewhere between Rutgers and South Florida

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Somewhere between Rutgers and South Florida

Phil....TULANE???

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Phil....TULANE???

embarrasing

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Right below Washington

[Honu]

I wonder why no one ships in for a couple of hundrend g's to beat the big mare? Can it just be that they are so against synthetics that they wouldnt dare come race on principle alone. Is it the owners who dont want to try it or the trainers? Her races on dirt show alot more turn of foot than her races on synthetic of course this just my opinon but I just dont get why a 5k plane ride and some hotel rooms for help doesnt attract more people to come and try and beat her. Its gotta be the synthetic principle, call b ullshit but dont show up to prove it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

I wonder why no one ships in for a couple of hundrend g's to beat the big mare? Can it just be that they are so against synthetics that they wouldnt dare come race on principle alone. Is it the owners who dont want to try it or the trainers? Her races on dirt show alot more turn of foot than her races on synthetic of course this just my opinon but I just dont get why a 5k plane ride and some hotel rooms for help doesnt attract more people to come and try and beat her. Its gotta be the synthetic principle, call b ullshit but dont show up to prove it.

She is running in filly races. Horses that win the BC Classic shouldnt stick to filly races. It isn't like there are a whole lot of horses shipping in to run in the colt races for better money against ordinary horses either. The fact is that the older horse and filly/mare divsion are pretty thin. And that is being nice.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

She is running in filly races. Horses that win the BC Classic shouldnt stick to filly races. It isn't like there are a whole lot of horses shipping in to run in the colt races for better money against ordinary horses either. The fact is that the older horse and filly/mare divsion are pretty thin. And that is being nice.

I'm really not sure why these basic concepts seem to be lost on people. I could understand if it's new fans saying this stuff, but for the most part it isn't. Weird...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm really not sure why these basic concepts seem to be lost on people. I could understand if it's new fans saying this stuff, but for the most part it isn't. Weird...

Honestly Honu is one of the few CA people that at least offers something different than the usual fare. What is maddening is the older horse division stinks yet the Z camp still cared more about that stupid streak. The reason that very few horses ever had streaks like that? No one cared about wins in a row if there were bigger races to chase.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Honestly Honu is one of the few CA people that at least offers something different than the usual fare. What is maddening is the older horse division stinks yet the Z camp still cared more about that stupid streak. The reason that very few horses ever had streaks like that? No one cared about wins in a row if there were bigger races to chase.

I would care about the streak if I were her connections wouldnt you ? Its important and its good for racing 25k people showed up to the hood with their signs to cheer for her and see her do her thing. Yeah maybe they should have ventured out and did something else but at this stage in the game its a little late for that. You have something with stating the older male horse division isnt much to write home about and Z will most likely go against them in Kentucky. I would have to say that the last 4 years have been a no better time to be Zenyatta and her connections because other than her there are no real super stars even if her star is mostly shining on the west coast.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Honestly Honu is one of the few CA people that at least offers something different than the usual fare.

I'm a Californian.

I have my ten year chip.

I've also been a Floridian, a Chicagoan, and an Ohioan.

Thankfully all those places have thoroughbred horse racing.



And more thankfully, I have been a South Carolinian for 20 years along the way.

I think I know a bit about horse race gambling. I have my "California soft side," but my Southern legacy is to own and shoot guns.

I am a fan of Zenyatta.

And I hate stereotyping. Except that I think most Northeasterners are pseudo "open minded," and quick to reach conclusions with minimal observation, research and analysis.

Anyone here who thought Zenyatta was in a walkover last Saturday could have put her in an exacta over the obvious 2nd best horse in the race and doubled their investment.

Anyone do it?

Redboarding allowed here...