Jeter A Jerk?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL. This is a non story. Jeter doesnt get to fake getting hit and head to first on his own. The umpire sends him down there based on what he and the other 3 umpires saw. If they missed it or were "tricked" by Jeter, too bad. Calling it cheating and comparing it to corking a bat is beyond idiotic. I may have exceeded the speed limit on occasion and might have pulled the tag off of a mattress but that doesn't make me a criminal does it?

It is cheating. It's not idiotic to consider that cheating. He acts like the ball hit his hand. After the game he says it hit the bat. That is 100% cheating.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

It is cheating. It's not idiotic to consider that cheating. He acts like the ball hit his hand. After the game he says it hit the bat. That is 100% cheating.

It is not cheating. He doesn't make the call, the ump does. So catchers trying to frame pitches are cheating too? Aren't they trying to deceive the ump? When a guy misses the bag on a double play and the ump doesnt see it is that cheating too? When a guy checks his swing but does in fact go around but the ump makes a bad call and says he held up, is that cheating if he doesnt admit to swinging? If a guy traps a ball but the ump misses the call and says it was a catch, is he cheating?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is not cheating. He doesn't make the call, the ump does. So catchers trying to frame pitches are cheating too? Aren't they trying to deceive the ump? When a guy misses the bag on a double play and the ump doesnt see it is that cheating too? When a guy checks his swing but does in fact go around but the ump makes a bad call and says he held up, is that cheating if he doesnt admit to swinging? If a guy traps a ball but the ump misses the call and says it was a catch, is he cheating?

This is different. There is a guy acting like he is in deep pain, and after the game he admits the ball only hit the bat. You wonder why WALLSTREET stole from America? Duh. We need to stop encouraging kids to be deceitful. What happened last night was a guy got ahead by using deceit. You can't be surprised that our society can't fix that. Not when we're encouraging Jeter's little exhibit last night.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

This is different. There is a guy acting like he is in deep pain, and after the game he admits the ball only hit the bat. You wonder why WALLSTREET stole from America? Duh. We need to stop encouraging kids to be deceitful. What happened last night was a guy got ahead by using deceit. You can't be surprised that our society can't fix that. Not when we're encouraging Jeter's little exhibit last night.

It isn't different. He broke no rule. Baseball isn't self regulated like golf. If the umpires miss a call then you are under no obligation to bail them out. As for the social implication, I thought no one under 40 watched baseball anymore? And the rest of the world watches Soccer which is not only mind numbingly dull but where faking is an art form.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It isn't different. He broke no rule. Baseball isn't self regulated like golf. If the umpires miss a call then you are under no obligation to bail them out. As for the social implication, I thought no one under 40 watched baseball anymore? And the rest of the world watches Soccer which is not only mind numbingly dull but where faking is an art form.

He acted like he got hit smack dead on the hand. It's not like he just let the umpires do their job, and they blew it. He cried out in pain like a lil bitch. This amount of subterfuge should be looked down upon. None of your other baseball examples have this important factor involved. Why would you bring soccer into this. You don't like it.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is not cheating. He doesn't make the call, the ump does. So catchers trying to frame pitches are cheating too? Aren't they trying to deceive the ump? When a guy misses the bag on a double play and the ump doesnt see it is that cheating too? When a guy checks his swing but does in fact go around but the ump makes a bad call and says he held up, is that cheating if he doesnt admit to swinging? If a guy traps a ball but the ump misses the call and says it was a catch, is he cheating?

exactly.

and fucl< the Yankees

[blackthroatedwind]

The umps blew the call. Period. I can't stand the Yankees but honestly never cared what Jeter did.

The most pathetic thing was how loudly you could hear the ball hit the bat. Yet the ump still blew it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The umps blew the call. Period. I can't stand the Yankees but honestly never cared what Jeter did.

The most pathetic thing was how loudly you could hear the ball hit the bat. Yet the ump still blew it.

Yea, and if he got away with trying deceit in that situation, then, won't kids think they can get away with it in a ton of situations? It's a horrible message to send. What's the difference between that, and destroying an opposing team's star player? I think what he did is poor sportsmanship. Now, the only fix is another act of poor sportsmanship (drilling him in the head.) It's better to just look down upon this act of cheating. If the ball hits the bat that loudly, then don't act like it hit your hand. If you do, then you'll be looked down upon. Period. That's what should happen. I can't see how it's a good thing to have guys (on video) admitting they lied a couple hours ago. Not good. Then, a day later the other team's pitcher has to throw at his head. Not good.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea, and if he got away with trying deceit in that situation, then, won't kids think they can get away with trying deception in a ton of situations? It's a horrible message to send. What's the difference between that, and destroying an opposing team's star player? I think what he did is poor sportsmanship. Now, the only fix is another act of poor sportsmanship (drilling him in the head.)

political correctness has ruined enough in this country already. Lets try to keep baseball from joining the crowd.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

It is cheating. It's not idiotic to consider that cheating. He acts like the ball hit his hand. After the game he says it hit the bat. That is 100% cheating.

Beyond idiotic.. idiotic lost by 30 lengths

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Wouldn't be a problem if they just go to video n'check it, but no. We got to have this stupid bullshyt going on. Look at tennis. They get a certain amount of calls they check each match. No, we got to have people getting stuff they don't deserve. Really don't understand how all these bad calls make the game better. Makes it more of a joke. That's why Jeter was laughing. It's a fkn joke.