Meanest Trainer Ever?

I would like to see someone defend this quote...

"It's like taking your son or daughter away and spending the whole day with them at Holiday World. Whole day, buy them candy, then come home and time to do homework and they say no. Spent the whole day with you. 'No, I'm not doing it,' for no real reason," Carroll said. "You get upset, don't you?"

http://www.wlky.com/news/24426672/detail.html

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Wow. He might have actually been better served if he went with the 'you take your ho out and spend time with her - and when you want her to turn a trick she says no' angle than the whole I treat them like my kids angle.

[Danzig]

no doubt the horse was out of control. but eventually it seems, so was the trainer. a shame all the way around. too bad for the horse, too bad for a trainer who probably got lost in the moment.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no doubt the horse was out of control. but eventually it seems, so was the trainer. a shame all the way around. too bad for the horse, too bad for a trainer who probably got lost in the moment.

I bet the horse barely felt it. I'm not saying its the right way to go about it, but after watching the video I dont think its nearly as big of deal as some of the posts made it out to be.

horses are huge animals that can kill a person fairly easily. sometimes you have to be tough with them.

shoot i felt bad at school when getting the yearlings ready for the sale, if one of the colts got a erection we were supposed to smack it with a crop to make it go away.. that probably bothers them more than that punch did.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I bet the horse barely felt it. I'm not saying its the right way to go about it, but after watching the video I dont think its nearly as big of deal as some of the posts made it out to be.

horses are huge animals that can kill a person fairly easily. sometimes you have to be tough with them.

shoot i felt bad at school when getting the yearlings ready for the sale, if one of the colts got a erection we were supposed to smack it with a crop to make it go away.. that probably bothers them more than that punch did.

perhaps. i don't think the knock in the head was needed. but, i have to admit i'm glad i've never had a video of me when i've had less than brilliant moments. people might think i'm touched in the head!


ahem...they may already think that anyway.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

perhaps. i don't think the knock in the head was needed. but, i have to admit i'm glad i've never had a video of me when i've had less than brilliant moments. people might think i'm touched in the head!


ahem...they may already think that anyway.

none of us know if it was needed cause we werent on the horse. the horse was clearly running off and not listening to instruction.

And racehorses are much more dangerous than the average horse, because they are nuts and are fed lots of nutrients for training and have much more energy than the average horse.

being around race horses on any given day is a risk, being on top of one who wont listen is a big risk. IMO, the punch to the horse was nothing more than giving your dog a little slap because he wont listen.

[hockey2315]

The last whack in the head was unnecessary.

[paisjpq]

Plenty of people have seen me beat the tar out of a horse both on the ground and in the saddle...but I have never hit a horse in the head, apart from a smack between the ears to get one to stop rearing. It just isn't productive and there is too much potential to do actual harm if you accidentally hit them in the eye. Carroll even admitted that he was frustrated and hit her out of anger. We've all been there...he should have handled himself better IMO.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

shoot i felt bad at school when getting the yearlings ready for the sale, if one of the colts got a erection we were supposed to smack it with a crop to make it go away.

Clearly you didn't handle Golden Missile as a yearling.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Clearly you didn't handle Golden Missile as a yearling.

I almost spit my coffee, this post derserves its due!

[randallscott35]

A whole thousand dollar fine. http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...eptable-temper

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I would like to see someone defend this quote...



http://www.wlky.com/news/24426672/detail.html

Thanks for that link. Makes clear Carroll is an *******. I don't need the, I was having a bad day nonsense. This is physical abuse.

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Thanks for that link. Makes clear Carroll is an *******. I don't need the, I was having a bad day nonsense. This is physical abuse.

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

I was less than impressed with Asher's response as well.

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I was less than impressed with Asher's response as well.

Not I. He was probably hungry.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

yeah the quotes were not very well thought out.


randall, have you ever worked hands on with a race horse?

[GPK]

Meanest trainer ever? Chuck Simon...but only because he's a Knicks fan. I'd be miserable too.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

He is fortunate that he made that statement at the end of the week when reporters are otherwise preoccupied with Charlie Rangel, Mel Gibson, Lindsey Lohan, BP, Kagan, and NFL training camps. If he had said that crap during Derby week, he would have become the poster boy for animal abuse in the public eye. He needs to shut his mouth and lay low until this episode blows over, and hope his owners understand.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

He is fortunate that he made that statement at the end of the week when reporters are otherwise preoccupied with Charlie Rangel, Mel Gibson, Lindsey Lohan, BP, Kagan, and NFL training camps. If he had said that crap during Derby week, he would have become the poster boy for animal abuse in the public eye. He needs to shut his mouth and lay low until this episode blows over, and hope his owners understand.

This brings up a point that I do think tracks have a responsibility to step in more than they do. I witnessed the most terrible accident at a track this summer at Colonial and what angered me the most was that it was by negligence of the trainer that the horse is now dead and many people were witness to something I hope I never see again. This of course, was swept under the carpet as an unfortunate accident, but I think it was someone's responsibility to investigate why a trainer's horses were always underweight and clearly not schooled. I consider myself one of the strongest fans of racing out there, but even I had to step away that day because of this incident.

[pba1817]

Horse deserved it