New Illinois Board rule limits ADW access for IL players

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[joeydb]

That sucks. And I thought our signal dispute was bad in the Mid-Atlantic states. A law like that is far worse since it will not be easily changed.

[ArlJim78]

I just got off the phone with the IRB. They said "oh my are we hearing about this today. We've been getting calls all morning".

they set the cap at 5%, knowing that there would be an issue, and now today they are surprised to hear such anger?

They said the Illinois horsemen didn't want the money going out of state to the ones that charge more than 5%.

I think I'm going on strike, and won't place any bets until this is settled. I'm so sick of getting jacked around. This is the only industry I can think of where the customer is continuously treated like a punching bag.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/114833.html


The Illinois Racing Board approved the cap in January as a way to protect the amount of revenue from account wagering that flows to Illinois horsemen and racetracks. Although many racetracks and horsemen objected to the cap, the rule went into effect after a 45-day comment period in which many racing industry officials said they would support the cap only if it were raised above the current market rate for premium signals.

[10 pnt move up]

I don't buy that the tracks and horsemen in general were not against this move.

They certainly were not in Az where they made all wagering illegal.

I guess the bright side is they still let you wager on some tracks, they I think a full boycott is in order of Ill racing.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I don't buy that the tracks and horsemen in general were not against this move.

They certainly were not in Az where they made all wagering illegal.

I guess the bright side is they still let you wager on some tracks, they I think a full boycott is in order of Ill racing.

i am sure you meant all online wagering is illegal in AZ, but then i have 5 OTBs within minutes of my house. I think we have over 45 in the PHX metro area and new ones opening every week. John Kyl was the one who got the law done here and is the one that is still trying to outlaw online betting nation wide.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

i am sure you meant all online wagering is illegal in AZ, but then i have 5 OTBs within minutes of my house. I think we have over 45 in the PHX metro area and new ones opening every week. John Kyl was the one who got the law done here and is the one that is still trying to outlaw online betting nation wide.

yea, but how many tracks can you play at those otb's?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I don't buy that the tracks and horsemen in general were not against this move.

They certainly were not in Az where they made all wagering illegal.

I guess the bright side is they still let you wager on some tracks, they I think a full boycott is in order of Ill racing.

So what you are saying is that CDI which has been one of the leading proponents of increasing the price of the signal decided to support a law that would do the opposite?

Or that the AZ horseman or tracks have enough pull to influence a US senator?

Uh ok.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So what you are saying is that CDI which has been one of the leading proponents of increasing the price of the signal decided to support a law that would do the opposite?

Or that the AZ horseman or tracks have enough pull to influence a US senator?

Uh ok.

Your doing this just to be a pain right?

You really think that Kyl had anything to do with AZ House Bill 1040? How could he? I never mentioned Kyl.

They had enough pull though to influence the vote in the AZ legislature. Do you know what business the owner of TuP came from, where he got his money? Think Las Vegas in the 50's.

I have no clue what went on in Ill, but I can tell you in Az all the horseman and the track said how they did not want to curtail the internet wagering, blah blah but behind the scenes they were pushing it, this is not a guess on my part.

[analyizethis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.drf.com/news/article/114833.html


The Illinois Racing Board approved the cap in January as a way to protect the amount of revenue from account wagering that flows to Illinois horsemen and racetracks. Although many racetracks and horsemen objected to the cap, the rule went into effect after a 45-day comment period in which many racing industry officials said they would support the cap only if it were raised above the current market rate for premium signals.

So the horsemen basically agreed to a cap as long as it wasn’t set low enough to really impact pricing (so therefore was no cap at all). Now that a real cap was imposed what consequences do they anticipate and what actions do the horsemen plan to take?

As I said this morning on the radio, attempting to protect local product by putting restrictions on imported product does not work. (I misspoke this morning and should have referred to the “Smoot Hawley Act of 1930”)

Names , titles and some contact information of the powers that be are listed below:

ILLINOIS RACING BOARD

Chairman Joseph Sinopoli of Glen Ellyn, Angelo Ciambrone of Chicago Heights, William Farley Jr. of Oak Park, Tim Martin of Wheaton, Jon Metcalf of Indian Head Park, Allan Monat of Northbrook, Michael Murphy of Normal, Paul Smith of Plainfield and Robert C. Winchester of Rosiclare are the board Members. Officers are; Executive Director; Marc Laino (marc.laino@illinois.gov), Board Counsel Jennifer LaDuke (Jennifer.laduke@illinois.gov), General Counsel Shelly Kalita (shelly.kalita@illinois.gov) and Project Manager Mickey Ezzo (mickey.ezzo@illinois.gov).

The offices of the Illinois Racing Commission are located at the James R. Thompson Center 100 West Randolph Street, Chicago, Illinois 60601. The phone and fax numbers are (312) 814 – 2600 and (312) 814 – 5062 respectively.

The minutes of the January 26, 2010 meeting of the board reflect the following comment: “Commissioner Ciambrone moved to approve an interstate commission rate cap of 5%. An interstate commission fee is the fee a racetrack in another state charges an advance deposit wagering licensee to broadcast and accept wagers on its signal. Commissioner Smith seconded the motion. The Board approved the motion unanimously by voice vote. President Roy Arnold appeared on behalf of Arlington Park. John Johnston, John Walsh and Tony Somone appeared on behalf of Balmoral Park, Maywood Park, Hawthorne Race Course and the IHHA. Michael Campbell and Glen Berman appeared on behalf of the ITHA. Scott Duarty and Patrick Troutman appeared on behalf of TrackNet.” I don't know if this is a complete list of attendees but I see no memebrs of the media or representatives of HANA.

I would suggest that any interested parties contact any and all of the individuals named above. I will continue to hunt for more specific email addresses or phone numbers and post such information as found to assist in that effort.

The next meeting is scheduled for July 27, 2010 at 9:00 am in the downtown Chicago offices. Meetings are open to the public and as of right now I plan to attend.

The agency’s web site is http://www.state.il.us/agency/irb/default.htm and on that web site are FOIA (Freedom Of Information Act) forms, minutes of meetings and a variety of other pieces of information.

[Scav]

Mike Campbell holds court almost every morning right in front of the big screen. If I can get a couple minutes I will talk to him

[analyizethis]

A business meeting just got in the way of my attending the rcaing board meeting si I can't attend. I'll still monitor the minutes but if someone else makes to meeting that would be great.