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Old 07-01-2010, 11:36 PM
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As for his race record, I am normally the guy who goes crazy off of big efforts, and I never did for this horse. I never liked him much, I never liked what he beat and I just was never sold on him, again maybe Im wrong... I can tell you this though, the list of horses who jump up 10-25 beyer points from synthetic-dirt is ENDLESS... It happens every weekend in a stakes at Lone Star or Belmont, horses are bred for dirt. So IWR improved a lot, and beat up on total ****. He dodged QR, because QR was busy turning in triple digit beyers taking the Florida route to the Derby and when he face POTN on synthetics he could not beat him, not that that really matters.

So to officialy answer your question I think his race record is dressed up, and I think the layoff/injury are huge huge concerns and I dont think he was ever that good to begin with.
If you didn't like him the days leading up to last year's Derby I think you were crazy. I went to bed last year on that Friday night more convinced than I ever had been that I knew who was going to win that race. His Wood Memorial was simply outstanding and there is every reason to believe that without the injury he could have had a dominant season last year.

None of that means that playing against him in this race is the wrong move, but his return certainly has me intrigued.
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:43 PM
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If you didn't like him the days leading up to last year's Derby I think you were crazy. I went to bed last year on that Friday night more convinced than I ever had been that I knew who was going to win that race. His Wood Memorial was simply outstanding and there is every reason to believe that without the injury he could have had a dominant season last year.

None of that means that playing against him in this race is the wrong move, but his return certainly has me intrigued.
I didn't like him going into the Derby. Between reports of his possible injury and my utter lack of trust of Mullins under any type of scrutiny I was not going to bet him at 2-1. That's not to discount his Wood Memorial performance which was outstanding of course.

That being said, last years' Derby is still inscrutable to me and we know the results!
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:17 AM
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If you didn't like him the days leading up to last year's Derby I think you were crazy. I went to bed last year on that Friday night more convinced than I ever had been that I knew who was going to win that race. His Wood Memorial was simply outstanding and there is every reason to believe that without the injury he could have had a dominant season last year.

None of that means that playing against him in this race is the wrong move, but his return certainly has me intrigued.
I did not like him at all going into the Derby.... I loved QR till he got hurt. IWR was a hype horse IMO that I was not falling for and trying to beat based on him running 2 giant races vs horrible competition. I thought the FL races were stronger, and POTN would improve on dirt, just like IWR did.
Derby day I based all my bets around Pioneer of the Nile and Dunkirk....
I guess Im crazy to like the horse who ran second.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:31 AM
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I did not like him at all going into the Derby.... I loved QR till he got hurt. IWR was a hype horse IMO that I was not falling for and trying to beat based on him running 2 giant races vs horrible competition. .
You mean..

kinda like....

Eskenderya?
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You mean..

kinda like....

Eskenderya?
Maybe, but I doubt it. Esky was the goods.
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MONDAY 9th (5:17) Bed o' Roses H. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Qualia Maragh R 115 L
2 Devil by Design Desormeaux K J 114 L
3 Amazing Luzzi M J 115 L
4 My Dinah Espinoza J L 112 L
5 Lady Alexander Lopez C C 115 L
6 Rightly So Velasquez C 114 L
7 Nicksappealinglady Garcia Alan 112 L
8 McVictory Dominguez R A 114 L
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:21 PM
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WOW! Haynesfield looked like he wasn't even trying.
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:23 PM
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Brutal, brutal experience for I Want Revenge. Terrible action and Talamo was beating the **** out of him? Why Joe, was this race he absolutely had to win?
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MONDAY 9th (5:17) Bed o' Roses H. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Qualia Maragh R 115 L
2 Devil by Design Desormeaux K J 114 L
3 Amazing Luzzi M J 115 L
4 My Dinah Espinoza J L 112 L
5 Lady Alexander Lopez C C 115 L
6 Rightly So Velasquez C 114 L
7 Nicksappealinglady Garcia Alan 112 L
8 McVictory Dominguez R A 114 L

I am excited to see Qualia step up here, I think shes a total standout in this spot.
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:44 AM
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How about three NY breds sweeping the three graded stakes this weekend at Belmont?

Suburban/Haynesfield..

Prioress/Franny Freud..

Bed o'Roses/Rightly So..
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How about three NY breds sweeping the three graded stakes this weekend at Belmont?

Suburban/Haynesfield..

Prioress/Franny Freud..

Bed o'Roses/Rightly So..

Rightly So was especially disgusting for me, live in the Grand Slam for $50.
25x17 and change.
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Nice rabbit.
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Nice rabbit.
Maybe Dutrow will start using Stardom Bound as a rabbit.
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Maybe Dutrow will start using Stardom Bound as a rabbit.
Actually, she was sold in the last couple of days.

Undisclosed amount.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:47 AM
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Actually, she was sold in the last couple of days.

Undisclosed amount.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sold-privately

I'm going with worst purchase ever for $5.7MM...

(bonus points considering that Rachel Alexandra was for sale at about the same time)
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sold-privately

I'm going with worst purchase ever for $5.7MM...

(bonus points considering that Rachel Alexandra was for sale at about the same time)
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