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I think Obama could hold his own. Debates on television come down to who looks better physically and who can out bulls.hit the other.

Advantage Obama.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I think Obama could hold his own. Debates on television come down to who looks better physically and who can out bulls.hit the other.

Advantage Obama.

Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

Originally Posted by joeydb

Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

And when was the last time a debate like that happened?

Exactly.

Americans, for the most part, are morons. They want style over substance.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

Obama could out debate Jesus with regards to your first paragraph. He's so good that he got himself elected POTUS with the minimal amount of experience and record he had. That is just amazing.

Newt > Obama with regards to actual intellect.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Oh, if you mean a debate as devoid of substance as Obama's own campaign was, (i.e. "Hope and Change" "Yes we Can"), then sure.

I thought we were literally talking about an intellectual debate - pitting ideas against each other. The proponents of those ideas are secondary.

Did you see any of the President debates, Joey?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Did you see any of the President debates, Joey?

he is a master bater.. I mean debater.. that is for sure.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

he is a master bater.. I mean debater.. that is for sure.

especially when he kept saying he was bringing the troops home and closing Gitmo.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Did you see any of the President debates, Joey?

I saw them. And McCain played it too safe. He should have taken an intellectual hatchet to Obama's positions.

Like:

"You said you think it's better when you 'spread the wealth around'. Where, exactly, in the Constitution do you find the right for any government entity to do that? Your as free to spread your own wealth around any way you like -- charity, investment, business, etc. but you don't have the right to anyone else's property."

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I saw them. And McCain played it too safe. He should have taken an intellectual hatchet to Obama's positions."

I read "Game Change", about the election. McCain is repeatedly represented as being rather disengaged from the whole Presidential thing, from the start. He didn't prepare for his debates, didn't take them seriously. It sure showed. He only did well in one of the three, I think.