Nick Canani at Arlington

[The Bid]

Dellinger why would he feel like he's in Amsterdam. Think he's gelded, redlight district not in play.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Dellinger why would he feel like he's in Amsterdam. Think he's gelded, redlight district not in play.

The other activity found in the red light district in Amsterdam, that or Sammy Sosa approved Flintstone vitamins

[The Bid]

Why do you think that Dell

Cool Clue was competitive at that level a few times. It's not like he showed some huge improvement. He jumped 10 objective figure points and just got the winner. He was back at the same level he ran for previous connections, where he belongs.

I just don't think he was drugged based on that effort. He pissed after the race

[The Bid]

I think there's a big difference in vetting these horses to the fullest, amd drugging.

Speaking of calabrese outfit I'm sure the vet bills are pretty extensive, but he has unlimited funds. That should be taken into account

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I think there's a big difference in vetting these horses to the fullest, amd drugging.

Speaking of calabrese outfit I'm sure the vet bills are pretty extensive, but he has unlimited funds. That should be taken into account

I agree with this. He has a 'personal' vet because he has so many horses, so the bills probably are not what you think they are. He is getting a major discount as many vets have 25-35% profit built into their number because they are never paid on time.

He ran a 73 Beyer (8 pt top) but the fractions were somewhat the same, final time was only a tenth faster then his last race, and he got somewhat of a perfect trip until the 1/8th pole.

Does it suck? Absolutely. If he was cheating, he would have been busted by now because he has been doing the same stuff for years. And the IRB was back snooping around last week, pretty interesting stuff although we obviously weren't part of it.

[The Bid]

Scav

I'm sure his vet probably has them as comfortable as you can haveone come raceday. I'm also sure they push the envelope (legally) because calabrese does have unlimited funds. If you want to tap every joint and spend the money anybody can do it. I'm sure any trainer would love to be able to proactively vet all of them w/out worry. Unfortunately most owners aren't going to be okay w a 1500 vetbill.

Essentially I think cool clue ran the same race. To me the 8 point move is insignificant. Now if he ran him in an allowance and he drew off by 5, then you scratch your head

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Scav

I'm sure his vet probably has them as comfortable as you can haveone come raceday. I'm also sure they push the envelope (legally) because calabrese does have unlimited funds. If you want to tap every joint and spend the money anybody can do it. I'm sure any trainer would love to be able to proactively vet all of them w/out worry. Unfortunately most owners aren't going to be okay w a 1500 vetbill.

Essentially I think cool clue ran the same race. To me the 8 point move is insignificant. Now if he ran him in an allowance and he drew off by 5, then you scratch your head

The one thing about about was that he didn't have any physical issues, he was pretty sound. The allowance part is exactly what I have said.

Calabrese doesn't get major move ups, maybe 1-2 pts. He runs them through conditions and they get sold, pretty simple. It isn't like they are running 10's on the sheets and then pop with a 2 or 3 like Wolfson or Dutrow

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I think there's a big difference in vetting these horses to the fullest, amd drugging.

Speaking of calabrese outfit I'm sure the vet bills are pretty extensive, but he has unlimited funds. That should be taken into account

I agree his vet bills are extensive and he's tested and passing. I still think Cool Cue feels like he's in Amsterdam because of 'vetting to the fullest.'

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I think there's a big difference in vetting these horses to the fullest, amd drugging.

Speaking of calabrese outfit I'm sure the vet bills are pretty extensive, but he has unlimited funds. That should be taken into account

as it turns out there isn't much differece now is there? When it smells like a rat it usually is.