Times Square Evacuated...Bomb Found

[Riot]

In a turn of events stunning and angering to those that decried prosecution in federal court (won't work, will endanger NY citizens, too expensive, will take forever, will allow him to lawyer up and get off scott free, Obama is ruining this country, etc):

(AP) NEW YORK -- Faisal Shahzad entered the plea in U.S. District Court in Manhattan just days after a federal grand jury indicted him on 10 terrorism and weapons counts, some of which carried mandatory life prison sentences. He pleaded guilty to them all.

Sentencing was scheduled for Oct. 5.

The Bridgeport, Conn., resident was arrested trying to leave the country May 3, two days after the bomb failed to ignite near a Broadway theater.

Authorities said Shahzad immediately cooperated, delaying his initial court appearance for two weeks as he spilled details of a plot meant to sow terror in the world-famous Times Square on a warm Saturday night when it was packed with thousands of potential victims.

According to the indictment issued last week, Shahzad received a total of $12,000 prior to the attack from the Pakistani Taliban through cash drop-offs in Massachusetts and Long Island.

Attorney General Eric Holder said after the plea: "Faisal Shahzad plotted and launched an attack that could have led to serious loss of life, and today the American criminal justice system ensured that he will pay the price for his actions."

FBI New York Acting Assistant Director-in-Charge George Venizelos called the plea "right on the mark" and praised the work of "ordinary citizens who alerted law enforcement of suspicious activity."

Shahzad was accused in the indictment of receiving explosives training in Waziristan, Pakistan, during a five-week trip to that country. He returned to the United States in February.

The indictment said he received $5,000 in cash on Feb. 25 from a co-conspirator in Pakistan and $7,000 more on April 10, allegedly sent at the co-conspirator's direction. Shahzad said in court Monday that the Pakistan Taliban gave him more than $4,000 when he left training camp.

Shahzad, born in Pakistan, moved to the United States when he was 18.

Pakistan has arrested at least 11 people since the attempted attack. An intelligence official has alleged two of them played a role in the plot. No one has been charged.

Three men in Massachusetts and Maine suspected of supplying money to Shahzad have been detained on immigration charges; one was recently transferred to New York.

Federal authorities have said they believe money was channeled through an underground money transfer network known as "hawala," but they have said they doubt anyone in the U.S. who provided money knew what it was for.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

In a turn of events stunning and angering to those that decried prosecution in federal court (won't work, will endanger NY citizens, too expensive, will take forever, will allow him to lawyer up and get off scott free, Obama is ruining this country, etc):

I don't think there was a huge outcry against prosecuting this guy in federal court. The huge outcry was about prosecuting Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (the 9/11 mastermind) in New York.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think there was a huge outcry against prosecuting this guy in federal court. The huge outcry was about prosecuting Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (the 9/11 mastermind) in New York.

Yup - KSM was the biggest outcry. But every other terrorist invoked it, too.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

In a turn of events stunning and angering to those that decried prosecution in federal court (won't work, will endanger NY citizens, too expensive, will take forever, will allow him to lawyer up and get off scott free, Obama is ruining this country, etc):

Yeah this guy is great comparison to KSM.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah this guy is great comparison to KSM.

Nobody is comparing him to KSM.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nobody is comparing him to KSM.

You just did.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You just did.

Nope. Wrong.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nope. Wrong.

The world according to Riot! Where she is the ultimate authority despite all evidence to the contrary.

Your selective memory in this case is laughable. KSM was the cause of the outrage, not clowns like this guy. Your insistence that he wasnt the reason for the outrage flys in the face of pretty much everything reported.

As usual

[Riot]

Get over yourself. There was enough outrage over this guy. Over any terrorist in NY. Liz Cheney making the rounds of the Sunday morning shows about him ring a bell in that pinhead?

You brought up KSM. Not me.

Your insistence that he wasnt the reason for the outrage flys in the face of pretty much everything reported.

I didn't say that. Get a grip on reality, and go insult someone else. Your bad temper and ravings stopped being my problem some time ago.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nobody is comparing him to KSM.

actually you were when you posted about the "no NY outcry". That was all about KSM.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

actually you were when you posted about the "no NY outcry". That was all about KSM.

Actually no I didn't, and no it wasn't.

As I have already said, yes, KSM was the largest inducer of these feelings.

Many came out vocally, publically and specifically against THIS terrorist being tried in federal court early in this year: both Dick and Liz Cheney, Tom Ridge, John Boehner, etc - mostly on the far right, obviously.

Plenty of discussion about how wrong Holder (and Obama) was wrong to try THIS terrorist in NY fed court in the larger news orgs, the Sunday morning talk shows, etc. Yes, even Faux News.

Plenty are against "any" terrorist being treated as anything other than a war criminal. Ewen people on this discussion board.

Your and Cannon's obvious ignorance of this doesn't make it non-existent. It just exposes your comments as the ad hominem BS they are.

[Danzig]

i think there is a huge difference between enemy combatants and this guy. can you charge one of your own citizens as an enemy combatant? i don't know, but i doubt it. if he were a soldier who 'turned' to the other side, he'd be charged with treason i'd imagine....at any rate, simply a different type case than most terrorist cases, since he's a citizen.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think there is a huge difference between enemy combatants and this guy. can you charge one of your own citizens as an enemy combatant? i don't know, but i doubt it.

The Constitution, treason, applies to American citizens, yes. The assumption (popular in one administration, not another) was/is that some terrorists are "war criminals", while others are not. Then the treatment of war criminals by the US comes into play.

This is another successful prosecution of yet another terrorist (domestic or foreign) within our judicial system.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Actually no I didn't, and no it wasn't.

As I have already said, yes, KSM was the largest inducer of these feelings.

Many came out vocally, publically and specifically against THIS terrorist being tried in federal court early in this year: both Dick and Liz Cheney, Tom Ridge, John Boehner, etc - mostly on the far right, obviously.

Plenty of discussion about how wrong Holder (and Obama) was wrong to try THIS terrorist in NY fed court in the larger news orgs, the Sunday morning talk shows, etc. Yes, even Faux News.

Plenty are against "any" terrorist being treated as anything other than a war criminal. Ewen people on this discussion board.

Your and Cannon's obvious ignorance of this doesn't make it non-existent. It just exposes your comments as the ad hominem BS they are.

you say many and name 4 republicans. I dont care what Dick and Liz were outraged about. the vast majority of the American public and all of NYC were outraged about KSM, and that is what actually matters, except in your pea brain.

as for your last comment, go fucl< yourself you lousy whore. and chew on a tar ball while your at it. piss the fucl< off. you dont deserve any respect so this is what I'll give you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you say many and name 4 republicans. I dont care what Dick and Liz were outraged about. the vast majority of the American public and all of NYC were outraged about KSM, and that is what actually matters, except in your pea brain.

as for your last comment, go fucl< yourself you lousy whore. and chew on a tar ball while your at it. piss the fucl< off. you dont deserve any respect so this is what I'll give you.

Keep it classy.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Actually no I didn't, and no it wasn't.

As I have already said, yes, KSM was the largest inducer of these feelings.

Many came out vocally, publically and specifically against THIS terrorist being tried in federal court early in this year: both Dick and Liz Cheney, Tom Ridge, John Boehner, etc - mostly on the far right, obviously.


Your and Cannon's obvious ignorance of this doesn't make it non-existent. It just exposes your comments as the ad hominem BS they are.

Can you please post video and or quotes of the Cheneys etc speaking on Faisal Shahzad specifically. As I recall Dick C. said this was a different case than KSM as the defendent here was an American citizen entitled to rights in a Fed court.