Obama's Oil Spill

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by joeydb

It wasn't a ridiculous question -- it wasn't a serious one. But it does highlight the ridiculous double standard used by the media, since there are similarities in the scale of the two disasters, and the fact that both were not acted on immediately.

Three days is a lot closer to immediate than 37 days is though.

If that's meant to highlight a double standard for the media, then it also highlights a complete inability on your part to discern whether dying is the same as losing your livelihood. If you think that those two things are on equal footing to try to "highlight" anything, then we may simply have entirely different worldviews.

I mean, we may as well ask while we're at it -- unemployment is high in the country, and there are more white folks in America than anyone else, and Obama's in charge, so that would almost certainly make him a racist too, right? Same thing as people dying, completely, I see no difference whatsoever.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

If that's meant to highlight a double standard for the media, then it also highlights a complete inability on your part to discern whether dying is the same as losing your livelihood. If you think that those two things are on equal footing to try to "highlight" anything, then we may simply have entirely different worldviews.

I mean, we may as well ask while we're at it -- unemployment is high in the country, and there are more white folks in America than anyone else, and Obama's in charge, so that would almost certainly make him a racist too, right? Same thing as people dying, completely, I see no difference whatsoever.

You're missing the point -- can we agree that race did not belong in either assessment of the response to the respective crises?

In otherwords, will the left admit, now that their guy can be viewed the same way, that Bush was not in fact a racist as a result of his handling of the Katrina aftermath?

Of course, I'd also expect all the public figures who said that Bush had special forces people detonating the levees to also retract their statements and issue an apology to Bush and his family.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by joeydb

You're missing the point -- can we agree that race did not belong in either assessment of the response to the respective crises?

In otherwords, will the left admit, now that their guy can be viewed the same way, that Bush was not in fact a racist as a result of his handling of the Katrina aftermath?

Of course, I'd also expect all the public figures who said that Bush had special forces people detonating the levees to also retract their statements and issue an apology to Bush and his family.

I was not aware that "Bush is a racist" was the left's party line on the handling on Katrina. For some, sure, but not as a whole I don't believe. So unfortunately, I'm not able to answer this question the way you've framed because I reject it out of hand.

Race shouldn't be involved in any discussion of the response to these disasters -- that I can agree on, but the whole apology from the left, retractions, etc, I can't get behind because like I said, you've framed it in a way that I don't believe is accurate to begin with.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I was not aware that "Bush is a racist" was the left's party line on the handling on Katrina. For some, sure, but not as a whole I don't believe. So unfortunately, I'm not able to answer this question the way you've framed because I reject it out of hand.

Race shouldn't be involved in any discussion of the response to these disasters -- that I can agree on, but the whole apology from the left, retractions, etc, I can't get behind because like I said, you've framed it in a way that I don't believe is accurate to begin with.

From our conversations on these boards, I can detect that you are a more rational guy, and I respect you.

There was a lot of coverage when all the Katrina stuff first broke to the effect of a racial component, and it was brought up again leading up to the election in the Louisiana area.

There actually were conspiracy theories put forward saying Bush blew up the levees, probably believed by the same nutjobs who watched "Fahrenheit 911" and think that the twin towers were brought down by "controlled demolition" -- like Rosie O'Donnell.

Those are the people I'd like to verbally tear apart.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by joeydb

There actually were conspiracy theories put forward saying Bush blew up the levees, probably believed by the same nutjobs who watched "Fahrenheit 911" and think that the twin towers were brought down by "controlled demolition" -- like Rosie O'Donnell.

Well, those people were lunatics before the oil spill. They haven't been exposed as any crazier than they already were just because Obama is f*cking up the response. They were out of their minds to begin with and not exactly the kind of people that I by and large think represent the left, but they may be for all I know....just not the people on the left that I personally know.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by joeydb

From our conversations on these boards, I can detect that you are a more rational guy, and I respect you.

There was a lot of coverage when all the Katrina stuff first broke to the effect of a racial component, and it was brought up again leading up to the election in the Louisiana area.

There actually were conspiracy theories put forward saying Bush blew up the levees, probably believed by the same nutjobs who watched "Fahrenheit 911" and think that the twin towers were brought down by "controlled demolition" -- like Rosie O'Donnell.

Those are the people I'd like to verbally tear apart.

Who the hell cares? What on earth does this have to do with the BP spill? Congrats, you've established that the left has out of touch conspiracy theorists. Jesus Christ, you take a stance that even I can agree with (Obama is sitting on his hands w/the spill) and manage to screw that up by grinding some five-year-old axe about some nonsense said by people who no one listens to anyway. Get a grip.