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Old 04-04-2010, 10:50 AM
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That was pretty dirt on Espinoza's part.
You don't let an odds-on favorite force his way up inside of you at that point in the race.

Look at what Migliore and Cohen both did to an odds-on favorite in the Whirlaway. Migliore intentionally cut him off - veered inward sharply and got his own horse cut in the back leg - and Cohen went WAY out of his way to gun and intimidate going into the 1st turn.

What's Espinoza supposed to do - push the horse to his outside out and give Lookin At Lucky a VIP invite path up the rail because Gomez wanted to save ground? Saving ground is close to pointless on that track anyway.

Anyone who thinks Espinoza was totally out of horse at that point is kidding themselves .. you're never out of horse that early on synthetic. It's not like they were flying up front.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:11 AM
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You don't let an odds-on favorite force his way up inside of you at that point in the race.

Look at what Migliore and Cohen both did to an odds-on favorite in the Whirlaway. Migliore intentionally cut him off - veered inward sharply and got his own horse cut in the back leg - and Cohen went WAY out of his way to gun and intimidate going into the 1st turn.

What's Espinoza supposed to do - push the horse to his outside out and give Lookin At Lucky a VIP invite path up the rail because Gomez wanted to save ground? Saving ground is close to pointless on that track anyway.

Anyone who thinks Espinoza was totally out of horse at that point is kidding themselves .. you're never out of horse that early on synthetic. It's not like they were flying up front.
Doug, what is your opinion on Candy now? Im guessing the beyer is in the 100-105 range, and Im also thinking he can still improve first time dirt. Are you really going to jump off?
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:27 AM
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Doug, what is your opinion on Candy now? Im guessing the beyer is in the 100-105 range, and Im also thinking he can still improve first time dirt. Are you really going to jump off?
do you still expect him to be 20-1?
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:31 AM
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do you still expect him to be 20-1?
I expect him to be no worse then the 3rd choice, no higher then 7-1, how can he be? He has done nothing wrong in his last 3 and keeps improving, and he is 100% a wise guy horse, especially with Esk, being a heavy favorite now.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:37 AM
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I expect him to be no worse then the 3rd choice, no higher then 7-1, how can he be? He has done nothing wrong in his last 3 and keeps improving, and he is 100% a wise guy horse, especially with Esk, being a heavy favorite now.
I'm hoping Odysseus or Dublin can run a huge race next weekend to spread it around even more. 10-1 on SC would be nice.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:22 AM
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Anyone who thinks Espinoza was totally out of horse at that point is kidding themselves .. you're never out of horse that early on synthetic. It's not like they were flying up front.
Right. I don't want my RETARDS trying to win races (which is hard enough for them) but, rather, I want them to be out there trying to **** with the other RETARDS. ****** demolition/roller derby. Any jock that intentionally hugs the rail on a tiring horse just needs to be fined. There's absolutely no justification for it.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:26 AM
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Right. I don't want my RETARDS trying to win races (which is hard enough for them) but, rather, I want them to be out there trying to **** with the other RETARDS. ****** demolition/roller derby. Any jock that intentionally hugs the rail on a tiring horse just needs to be fined. There's absolutely no justification for it.
For someone like yourself, who loves the syn-dirt move, are you not happy about this? LAL goes from the clear cut second choice, to maybe the 3,4 choice depening on the Arkansas Derby result.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:19 PM
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Right. I don't want my RETARDS trying to win races (which is hard enough for them) but, rather, I want them to be out there trying to **** with the other RETARDS. ****** demolition/roller derby. Any jock that intentionally hugs the rail on a tiring horse just needs to be fined. There's absolutely no justification for it.
Are you drinking this early ????????????????
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:53 AM
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Right. I don't want my RETARDS trying to win races (which is hard enough for them) but, rather, I want them to be out there trying to **** with the other RETARDS. ****** demolition/roller derby. Any jock that intentionally hugs the rail on a tiring horse just needs to be fined. There's absolutely no justification for it.
why do you have to use the R word so much? Pin head works for jockeys. The other word is insulting to the millions with disabilities.
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:25 AM
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why do you have to use the R word so much? Pin head works for jockeys. The other word is insulting to the millions with disabilities.
And "pinheads" is insulting to the millions with smaller than average heads.
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:32 AM
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And "pinheads" is insulting to the millions with smaller than average heads.

(I think it more has to do with the size of the brain, not the head)
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Old 04-05-2010, 03:25 PM
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(I think it more has to do with the size of the brain, not the head)
Einstein's brain was smaller than normal. (Useless but true trivia fact of the day)

(Einstein the person, not the horse. I have no idea how large Einstein the horse's brain is in relation to other horses)
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Old 04-05-2010, 03:49 PM
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Einstein's brain was smaller than normal. (Useless but true trivia fact of the day)

(Einstein the person, not the horse. I have no idea how large Einstein the horse's brain is in relation to other horses)
didnt he use like 10% of his brain though, where us normal people use like 4% and jockeys use like 0.01% ???
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Old 04-05-2010, 04:35 PM
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why do you have to use the R word so much? Pin head works for jockeys. The other word is insulting to the millions with disabilities.
It's the only way that what jockeys do makes sense to me. This way, I will always be able to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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