obama demands vote on health care..

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

this is great comedy. He doesn't even realize that you were paraphrasing his own post. Why you guys bother is beyond me. The sad thing is that there are millions of Nascars in this country, on both sides. Were fu*ked.

And actually, now that I'm self-employed, my health insurance sucks. I mean, I guess if I lose both legs or a drunk driver slams me into a light pole at 60 mph, they might actually pay something and make my premiums worth it...but I'm just throwing money down the drain unless something huge and catastrophic like that happens...otherwise I'm just handing them a fairly nice sum of my money every month and still paying everything out of pocket anyway. It's nearly unrecognizable as helpful insurance.

But strangely, when I was employed by a mega-corporation and had fabulous insurance, I never once had that entitled feeling of, "well, my insurance is rad, too bad for you sucker. If you're unhealthy and die, screw you, I'll still be good. PS, can I have some more money from the government? No? Oh, well F*CK OBAMA THEN!"

Actually, I think that if Nascar would just copy/paste that quote from my last paragraph, he could get the same point across every time without actually having to worry about typing out new words. If only I could add something about the Haitians and their AIDS, then it'd be all-encompassing.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And actually, now that I'm self-employed, my health insurance sucks. I mean, I guess if I lose both legs or a drunk driver slams me into a light pole at 60 mph, they might actually pay something and make my premiums worth it...but I'm just throwing money down the drain unless something huge and catastrophic like that happens...otherwise I'm just handing them a fairly nice sum of my money every month and still paying everything out of pocket anyway. It's nearly unrecognizable as helpful insurance.

But strangely, when I was employed by a mega-corporation and had fabulous insurance, I never once had that entitled feeling of, "well, my insurance is rad, too bad for you sucker. If you're unhealthy and die, screw you, I'll still be good. PS, can I have some more money from the government? No? Oh, well F*CK OBAMA THEN!"

Actually, I think that if Nascar would just copy/paste that quote from my last paragraph, he could get the same point across every time without actually having to worry about typing out new words. If only I could add something about the Haitians and their AIDS, then it'd be all-encompassing.

Thank you for expressing your opinion. I am glad im your hero.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=424

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=424

does that say more about where the democratic party has moved or the republican?

playing footsie with the tea party while uniformly voting against social legislation just says there's no room for a nelson rockefeller or edward brooke in the republican party anymore.

the democrats remain a center-left party while the republicans have chosen to give up the center and become a european style strict discipline ideological party. it should be an interesting experiment.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

does that say more about where the democratic party has moved or the republican?

playing footsie with the tea party while uniformly voting against social legislation just says there's no room for a nelson rockefeller or edward brooke in the republican party anymore.

the democrats remain a center-left party while the republicans have chosen to give up the center and become a european style strict discipline ideological party. it should be an interesting experiment.

And you are speaking for all Republicans or just the one's you see and hear on tv? I am fiscally conservitive and socially liberal. I want the feds to preserve my life liberty and pursuit of happiness and the rest Id surely like to be able to control for myself.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Honu

And you are speaking for all Republicans or just the one's you see and hear on tv? I am fiscally conservitive and socially liberal. I want the feds to preserve my life liberty and pursuit of happiness and the rest Id surely like to be able to control for myself.

i didn't invent the term rino.

if you'd like a debate with people that aren't looking to marginalize you, come on over and argue with us. we have room for dennis kucinich and ben nelson. i'm pretty sure we already have several million with your views.

outside of scuds, none are looking to throw you out if you join.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

does that say more about where the democratic party has moved or the republican?

playing footsie with the tea party while uniformly voting against social legislation just says there's no room for a nelson rockefeller or edward brooke in the republican party anymore.

the democrats remain a center-left party while the republicans have chosen to give up the center and become a european style strict discipline ideological party. it should be an interesting experiment.

Perhaps you can make that assumption or you can make the assumption that the bill passed was so convoluted that it got no bipartisan and lost some democratic support.

I think more importantly what you can come away with is the idea that the GOP has been in lockstep against the other major social reforms passed in the past is fiction but you wouldn't know that from listening to the pundits.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Perhaps you can make that assumption or you can make the assumption that the bill passed was so convoluted that it got no bipartisan and lost some democratic support.

I think more importantly what you can come away with is the idea that the GOP has been in lockstep against the other major social reforms passed in the past is fiction but you wouldn't know that from listening to the pundits.

you say this because you think republicans in this congress would vote with their colleagues from the 30's on social security? or their colleagues from the 60's on medicare?

i think they'd be lockstep against both.

have i completely misread the situation?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you say this because you think republicans in this congress would vote with their colleagues from the 30's on social security? or their colleagues from the 60's on medicare?

i think they'd be lockstep against both.

have i completely misread the situation?

That is the point. Who knows what would happen? But what HAS happened has been misrepresented.